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Difficulties with the new board Philosophy of Training

Difficulties with the new board

Lemuel~~~ ~looking about at those assembled~
Alright, may as well get started...normal forum rules apply...any topics please whisper them to Me.

Paedur~~~ Seeing that the forum has begun, simply nods to Those assembled and finds a place to listen.

Lemuel~~~ Well, since I don't have any topics yet...I'll mention that I've posted a couple new trivia questions on the GS board, one in the trivia section and another in the slave board.

Errand Knight~~~ Lemuel: I haven't been to the new board..well I have actually briefly ...good lost and gave up

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckles~ That's a new one, how could You get lost? There's always the link at the top to bring You back to the main page...mostly we hear of difficulties with registering or complaints about pop-ups...

Errand Knight~~~ Lemuel: I guess I didnt try very hard ...just looked and thought a Physicians equipment was easier and more familiar

Paedur~~~ Listening to Errand Knight.

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ And to A/any that haven't checked out the new board, there is a link to it at the bottom of this page...

Ayana~~~ Tal Lemuel, perhaps You can convince the constructors of Our new board to be a bit less pop-up happy *chuckling*

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckles~ There are free pop-up stoppers available. The one I use is called Pop-Swatter.

Kayla~~~ jasma.. have you looked into the pop up question?.. they were not there when we first started and then appeared all the sudden... seems like after so many registered?

jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ *softly offering*
about the pop up question.. during the trial period, which was 2 weeks this one believes.. there was no pop ups.. after that.. only if a payment is made.. will the pop ups leave.. but at this time a girl isn't able to afford that.. she apologizes at the inconvenience.. jaz uses pop up stopper free edition..

Ayana~~~ The time I have to read the board and catch up on things around here is during My lunch period, with such in mind, it requires the use of equipment that I do not own and am restricted to adding software to.
As a result, I must admit that I rely on the hearsay of Oothers to keep Me informed. The 15th pop up rather annoyed Me.

Kayla~~~ what is the cost to be without pop ups jasma?

This question was posed as jaz went to attend to RT.. she did respond to the Mistress privately. The pop ups should no longer be a problem for a year.. thanks to Master Lemuel.. ~smiling thankfully~


Philosophy of Training

Paedur~~~ I have a question which is Gorean and it is not.
Perhaps for the whole room as I know Lady Kayla is a trainer, and Lemuel You have such a magnificient girl.

What is Your philosophy on training submissives of slaves?
How do You view it?

Errand Knight~~~ Paedur: Im assuming you mean the training of a gorean slave...as you know the desired outcomes of gorean slave training and the training of a bdsm submissive are fundamentally different

Paedur~~~ Nods to Errand Knight, I wasn't speaking of You as her Master but of Bla. *S*
I don't go to the Dungeon anymore but to check the boards, so no socialization, so no worries for ANY there. *S*
But if I did, I would come to You if I so desired anything which bears You mark. *S*

Paedur~~~ I am speaking more so Errnad Knight of Your mind set, rather than the outcome.
Your philosophy of training. *S*

Kayla~~~ Actually here in GS and Gor I am not a trainer but take time to work with training... ~smiles at Paedur~
But I am unclear to your question My Friend...

Paedur~~~ Lady Kayla, We all have a philosophy to training, be it a slave , a submissive, a puppy.
I was asking of Your mindset, the philosophy You would and do follow when training one?

Lemuel~~~ ~nods at Kayla's comment~
I too am unsure what You mean Paedur. And I can't take credit for jasma's training since she was already well trained when I purchased her.

Paedur~~~ Lemual, she may have been a fine slave, but I am sure You had certain things You liked or disliked and she had to learn them in some manner some way.
How did You go about teaching her those nuainces of You?

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ Ah, I see...mostly through just having her serve Me and speaking with her privately, spending the time necessary for Me to get to know My slave and for her to get to know Me.

Paedur~~~ So time and experience with You Lemuel.
and I assume You were patient with her as much as You are with U/us here?

Kayla~~~ Ohhhh ~smiles~ I personally keep the slave pages open from Our Own Home pages and use alot of patience and many c&p's *ss* Since I have never done these serves Myself I rely on what galah and jasma and the others girls put together with the Council approval.

Lemuel~~~ ~laughs~ Yes, I try to be...not much of a "hard ass" I guess...

Paedur~~~ I see Lemuel. and I can see that in You without any issue.
Lady Kayla, I understand Your methods but what about Your mind set, How do You feel or think when You are training one?

Errand Knight~~~ Paedur: for My part..and Im not sure I understand your question totally...as You say, the outcomes of the training are different and as such the approach to training may have common elements but will have differences. For example as gor does not have an underpinning of consentuality (other than the paracticalities associated with vt) and the attitude of a slave will therefore be different, training is in My view differnt in its approach ..for example it is performed by a range of people as its technicality is more onerous than bdsm training which is often defined by a girls limits

Kayla~~~ Initally I go at training as if the person knows nothing of Gor and it's serves. I approach it as trying not to judge a girl but at the same time being helpful. I also give them the tools to train themselves by letting them know I am taking it straight from the slave manual *ss* Kinda self help *ss*

Errand Knight~~~ It sems to Me that gorean training which involves far more resarch and knowledge gaining than other lifestyles is more exacting and often more collegial requiring the assistance of slave classes. It also has a stronger reliance on punishment in whatever form

Lemuel~~~ ~nods~ I would point them to the slave pages for our Home and give them example serves, book quotes, etc. to help them learn their way on Gor.

Errand Knight~~~ there is after all a great deal of ritual involved in gor

Kayla~~~ well the main difference I see between sub and slave training EK would be as a sub you really only have to learn what you want being that it is consentual.. and a Gorean slave needs to learn it all if they are to live in Gor. a single mistake can be their last *ss*

Errand Knight~~~ geez..I was here the other day and as fast as slaves arrived Kayla hustled them off to slave class. I know My Sister just wanted some time alone with Me *laffs loudly at My own joke*

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckling~ Well You know how forgetful slaves can be E.K.

Kayla~~~ ~grins~ That was it EK *ss*... I beleive strongly in knowledge and that is why I go to every Sunday Forum and every GS Forum... (((oh BTW this Sunday Forum is here in GS)))) we should never pass up the chance to learn something or share our knowledge to others *ss*

Errand Knight~~~ Kayla: I agree and that can be quite demanding and indeed intimidating to those new to gor. Aside from the capture element it is probablly why many girls who are stimulated by the concept of slavery are hesitant with the gorean world

Errand Knight~~~ Kayla: I try to support GS forums activily..I am less diligent about the rotating forum though i try to be here when we host as I am sometimes embarrassed by so few GS Patrons attending

Lemuel~~~ ~nods~ And I have been trying to attend the rotation forums to be sure GS is represented, though I did miss last nights...

Kayla~~~ But that is why I try to be helpful in anyway I can.. there is not many times a new slave will enter without at least one whisper saying if nothing else to let Me know if I can help *ss*... even to the new slave of MDK and placing her in a training kolar to preserve her life the other day *ss* ... slaves can't be expected to know everything overnight.. even those of Gor need time to learn how things are done in GS *ss*

Kayla~~~ Last night's was a Barn burner *ss* never know if they will only go over the same old material or if something new will come up *ss*... But there is also the Freedom for slaves and FW to be able to speak with more freedom than in a roleplay setting that I like...

Errand Knight~~~ aye Kayla ..slaves have much to learn ..doubtless more than Free ..I know I have much to learn despite have been here for a bit now ..My focus though has been Caste Cylender knowledge and a broader understanding of the world of gor,,its history, ethics and what the variety of gor

Kayla~~~ I have a firm belief that all Free to be good Owners and Master/Mistresses over slaves need to know the serves and duties of a slave otherwise how would they know if a slave did something wrong?

jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~listening as she returns from RT~

Errand Knight~~~ that is true enough Kayla and something I probably need to know more detail of ..I mean i have read the slave manual and have learned a fair amount by observation

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ Just reading the menu can be instructive...different sites will have different things available and it is good to know what the girls can serve, the better to test them on it. ~G~

jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~agreeing with things that have been said~

Kayla~~~ I must admit I have with a couple of girls conspired to make funny posts during serves to see if the Free were reading the serves at all or only skiming them and it is amazing how much as a Free person We can miss but not reading the entire post of a serve... not only could the girls be slipping a poisen in they could be stitting in Your food.

Errand Knight~~~ yes the menu here is extensive and well justified given that one would expect that in Port Kar given what the fleet brings in
a little more variety that when visiting the Tuchuks or camping on the roadside through the Northern Forrsts whilst the panther girls watch on

Lemuel~~~ ~laughs~ And while *I* don't mind jasma checking goblet rims for flaws with her thigh, a Lady might...~grins and winks at My wench~

Kayla~~~ We had one come in the other night ordered paga in a bottle and the GS tavern slave served it.... like there were bottles of paga sitting around.. ~smiles~ First of all the Free had no idea it doesn't come that way and here is a girl either not knowing it herself or deciding to roleplay it to please a person though this Tavern does't bottle it's paga

Lemuel~~~ ~nods to E.K.~ Yes, we have a varied menu here and I try to pick something exotic on occasion just to keep My girl on her toes. ~S~

jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~gazing to her Owner.. eyes sparkling.. knowing she'd never check a vessel against her thigh for a Free Woman.. shuddering at the thought of punishment for something like that.. ~

Errand Knight~~~ *looks up startled at Kayla*
sheesh have they been chewing too much kanda leaf?

Kayla~~~ the thigh I have no problem with when jasma offers her nipple to check she may come home with a black eye from the bitch slap I give ~winking at jaz~

jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~nodding as Master Knight speaks.. ~
aye Master.. no sweetening the rims.. ~shuddering once more~

Errand Knight~~~ worse a blue nipple!

Lemuel~~~ ~laughing heartily at Kayla's comment~

Chakka~~~ *thinking to Myself that I enjoyed many a sweetened rim on My cup of pleasure in this establishment*

Kayla~~~ Thing of long past Chakka... tis not something offered any more in the Tavern ~grins~

jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~looking to the Mistress.. eyes widening before placing hands across full orbs.. and looking to Master.. ~
jaz wouldn't do that either.. ~s~

Chakka~~~ ahhh...such as terrible thing, Kayia...the emancipation of slaves would make Norman roll over in his grave...
err...is He dead yet...??LOL

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckling~ I don't think I'd want the rim of My drink sweetened...at least not by a strange slave...who knows where the sweetener had been before touching the rim? ~G~

Errand Knight~~~ *laffin at Lemuels comment*

Blade~~~ ~LOL~

Kayla~~~ Every roleplay should be a chance of learning and teaching for all involved... not in a chore like way but making the learning fun... but each serve is a chance to observe those that serve and get to know thier strengths and weekness and the slave learn who is observent to cares about the serve they give. they also teach a Free who may not know better when an order is given without site basis...

Lemuel~~~ ahhh, Lemeul...You must have epicurian tastes to appreciate such sweet flavours...!!LOL

Lemuel~~~ ~laughs~ Aye, I'm sure it is an acquired taste Chakka. ~G~

Kayla~~~ ~controlling My face not to gag at the thought~

Errand Knight~~~ Kayla: now theres an advantage of the face veil Sister, not that much makes Me gag

jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~just listening at the comments and scribing.. smiling a greetings to Master Chakka and the girl, janine~

Lemuel~~~ ~G~ Another advantage of the veil is that they can be used as a gag...or so a slaver I know tells Me...~winks at Kayla and grins~

Kayla~~~ ~sticking out My tongue at the Captain under the veil and crossing My eyes at Him~

Lemuel~~~ ~holding My rotund belly as I laugh at the cross-eyed FW~

Lemuel~~~ ~brushing a few stray bits of egg shell into the empty goblet as I look about the room~
Anything else on the slave training topic???

jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~arching back as she stretches.. wiggling achy fingers.. she listens to see if more will be spoke of.. ~

Lemuel~~~ ~shrugging~ If not, I'll call this forum to a close. All normal rules now apply...
Thank you A/all for coming and making it an interesting forum. ~S~

Errand Knight~~~ thank You once again Lemuel

jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~getting the rest of the notes~
thank You, Master for allowing Yours to participate and learn.