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Thoughts about the *test* boards slave vs slut.. a difference?

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Thoughts about the *test* boards

Kayla~~~ Well Let's get started... Captain Lemuel is alittle under the weather so I will Moderating tonight *ss*...
Any topics please whisper to Me and I welcome you all to this weeks GS Forum....

Kayla~~~ While I am waiting on topics... Lets throw oy there the GS boards.. thoughts and reactions to the test boards... suggestions? and the like....

mischief{WH}~~~ m's ca't post on the boards anymore, says it's members only now ~pout~

Errand Knight~~~ haven't had a look as yet ..maybe will give the boards another try

topaz{Rast's girl}~~~ topaz has seen the new boards, and find them really great, the same as GC....easy to navigate

Kayla~~~ you haven't checked out the new test boards mm?

Rast Dulan~~~ But the test boards seem a little slow...compared to other boards....

Kayla~~~ paz?... Prefer one over the other one?

mischief{WH}~~~ aye Mistress Kayla, she's seen them...is familiar with them and saw they were not being utilized (at least when she looked)...

zen{GS}~~~ this girl like sthe test boards too *smiles* seems to be easy to follow

topaz{Rast's girl}~~~ aye Mistress Kayla....topaz does like GS's boards better...but this is familiar after all...*chuckles*..
the new boards seem "colder" if that makes any sense?

Asellus~~~ Colder?...do tell, topaz. *listening*

topaz{Rast's girl}~~~ Mistress Asellus...tis hard to explain....topaz gets "feelings"...and the new boards are not the feeling of the Tavern and home...but of "another place" so to speak....tis like one goes to the local store everyday and sees the daily specials...and then returns a week later and sees McDOnalds and big macs posted...LOL....tis not homey...

shirin{SholGar}~~~ shirin likes the new boards but the second board created she likes better if she has to pick one, but too like tpoaz says the original is best, familiar ~*~nods smiling~*~

Asellus~~~ Well, is it because you only registered at the first one? Because I share your sentiments regarding the board resembling the one at GC.

topaz{Rast's girl}~~~ aye Mistress Asellus, topaz and her Master registered at the first one...have not seen another....

Asellus~~~ Then I say it's worth a look. *winking at the slave*

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ I think either one of the new boards would give us the control we are looking for. If I had to choose one I guess I would pick the free aimoo board that jasma set up because the look of it *feels* more like the tavern and it has more features than the free ikonboard. Both seem a little slow to Me and I would prefer the messages to be threaded as they are on our Poolside sub, but that's just me. ~S~

topaz{Rast's girl}~~~ aye Mistress Asellus...topaz will indeed...but will have to find the link...she has not seen it yet...*grins*

Kayla~~~ The newer baord looks like GS with the same background as the Tavern topaz... check it out maybe you will feel different... I also suggest posting even if only a test to see the features of each baord and the formating

Asellus~~~ GS Test Board #2

Asellus~~~ That is the second board.

topaz{Rast's girl}~~~ the new board is slow...very slow for topaz...*nods*

topaz{Rast's girl}~~~ thank You Mistress Asellus....topaz will look at that link shortly...*soft smile*

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~smiles to Mistress Asellus~*~ thank You, shirin was just hunting that link

Kayla~~~ Ok.. well if you have not checked out the test boards please do and post your ideas and thoughts about what you see ot features you wish you could have that you don't see....

shirin{SholGar}~~~ oh yes, the aimoo board is great, mistress jaz did a great job! ~*~winks to her up there being quiet~*~ very nice sis

shiri~~~ ~pops out of the shadows for a sec~
shiri is curious...if the board here at the pool is now password protected..why does GS need a new board at all?
the aimoo board is neat though ~S~

topaz{Rast's girl}~~~ nods agreement...
topaz thinks the board mistress jaz did is nicer...and does load much better indeed!

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ Because people that don't have a poolside membership can't post, shiri.

shiri~~~ oh ~laughs~
thanks Master Lemuel
~slaps self upside the head~

Kayla~~~ shiri.. it brings all the boards together for one thing and it allows the banning of certain people whether they are poolside members or not... It has more control features than what Gary's Boards do

shiri~~~ ~nodsnods to Mistress Kayla~
must be the heat..shiri is normally alittle sharper then this ~l~


slave vs slut.. a difference?

Kayla~~~ Thanks... Got the topic *ss*
Moving on

Kayla~~~ Topic for discussion:

What is the difference between a slave and a slut....in Gorean terms....

Asellus~~~ Could we please stick to the topics at hand? We do have a PM feature. *gentle reminder to the cross-talk occurring* It would make it much easier on the notetaker, I'm sure.

mischief{WH}~~~ ~listening to the topic~ there is no different in gorean terms....

Rast Dulan~~~ So then mischief..I have heard many define a slave...how do you define a slut?

mischief{WH}~~~ someone that can and does give in to the depth of pleasure that is within her (different levels for different girls)...but letting go of that inate sexuality that say society in general forces you to have tight reign on.....in short...being the you that is within you....

Rast Dulan~~~ So am I hearing right...all slaves on Gor are sluts?

Paedur~~~ Chuckles about slaves and sluts, and knows the true difference be it Gor or anywhere's else is in their hearts. *S*

mischief{WH}~~~ no Master Dulan, if this were a "perfect Gorean society" mischief would say yes...but at this point she wouldn't even say that all girls that are on Gor that claim they are slaves are slaves....so no, she doesn't think that all slaves on gor are sluts...but they all have that potential, if they cay let go of the binds they have held them tight throught their life and contact with the sexuality side of themselves and let it be "ok" to be sexy, to be hungry, to be wanton to be needy, to be delicious

mischief{WH}~~~ ooo that's not all of mischief's words...but it's enough to get the gist ~nodding~

molly~~~ ~listens~

zen{GS}~~~ *nods agreeing with mischief* there are those of us who are trying very much to become sluts too, takes lots of hard work

mischief{WH}~~~ m's agrees, it is work and worse off Masters....it doesn't just "stay" that way... You guys want sluts, you have to keep your girl in a state of hunger, of want, of feeling desired...she just doesn't hit that speed and stay there all by herself...

topaz{Rast's girl}~~~ well said mischief...*grins*

Paedur~~~ Chuckles once more because it does take quite a few Masters to make a slut. LOL

Asellus~~~ *Listening to the topic at hand*

mischief{WH}~~~ Master Paedur, she would disagree, it takes only One Master to make a slut..."the Master" that touches her soul...however to keep her in that state, it will take work from both Master and slave...

Errand Knight~~~ Paedur: the old nature/nurture arguement ..is a slut made or is she?

shirin{SholGar}~~~ mm you hit it right on the head! it's a Master that drives us really crazy with lust, we can only do so much by ourselves

molly~~~ Nodding at the girl~ mischief....

mischief{WH}~~~ shirin, she agrees, we can only do so much...but as girls, slaves, sluts..whatever you wish to call us, we flurish in the attention of a Man....it's part of what/who we are...

penny{Kyo}~~~ *thinking about the term "slut" for a moment*
Well, technically, wouldn't a slut be someone who sleeps around with many men? So a single Master could make a girl crave round the clock sex, but to be considered a slut, she'd have to be getting it from numerous sources...

mischief{WH}~~~ penny, mischief disagrees, she believes that is the socially acceptable definition of a slut, but in m's book, being a slut is actually a personal state of mind...(but that is her)

Paedur~~~ Chuckles, well Old Friend, I think it is a little of both.
she has to have it inside, and then it has to be drawn out as well.
To make a really good slut, not one who Most would be disgusted by.
mischief, it would be a very special relationship to be the first One on one to make the slut.
But to make her a slave in her heart and her belly, well then that is another matter. *wink*

Errand Knight~~~ is a slut defined by her behavior or by whom she is?

mischief{WH}~~~ m thinks a slut is defined by who and what she feels like within her....just as a slave is...m can serve every Man in this room a drink, or spread her legs for Him, but does it make her a slave....i.e she can fuck everyone in the room and does it make her a slut...

shirin{SholGar}~~~ who she is, Master EK, at least that's what shirin thinks

mischief{WH}~~~ If that is you believe the term slut to be a thing of beauty, not a simple fuction of fucking...

penny{Kyo}~~~ penny would say that slut is more of a behavioral term, rather than an inherent personality trait... it is something that comes and goes, depending on the situation, whereas most personality traits develop in youth and tend to stay with us throughout the course of our lives, no matter the given situation...

mischief{WH}~~~ penny, m's believes it's a state of mind more then a behavioral term...(but that's just mischief)

penny{Kyo}~~~ *nodding to mischief*
And everyone has their own philosophies... no one theory is any more correct than another...
*cheerful smiles*

Errand Knight~~~ and would you say the use of the term slut on gor is diffrent from earthen eg in bdsm where it is often a term of endearment?

mischief{WH}~~~ aye mischief agrees with that too...she was asked for her opinion and she gave it...but she does preface her words with the fact they are only her opinions...

shirin{SholGar}~~~ although, wasn't the term "slut" used in the books even in calling a white silk girl a slut? shirin believes so, tho has no quote handy to prove her point

mischief{WH}~~~ mischief thinks the term slut in gor or BDSM are fairly close...but much different then regulary society...aye

topaz{Rast's girl}~~~ topaz always felt the work "slut" to be derogatory, a term for one who screws anyone and everyone....though now she knows of Gor, and being a slave, a slut, is a term of endearment, when her Master calls her His slut, she knows it is said with a great deal of affection...it is the way of Gor...*shrugs*

Lemuel~~~ To Me...a "slut" is a person that enjoys sex, craves it. They may have "prefered" partners, but will take it when and where they can get it. so, I would say that on Gor, all sluts are slaves (or soon become slaves), but not all slaves are sluts (though they should be ~G~).

Paedur~~~ You must remember that in this society and the BDSM society, slut can be a good term, but in "Vanilla" society it is not.

penny{Kyo}~~~ *chuckling at Master Lemuel's words*

Asellus~~~ Sooo...should a slave take offense at being called a slut? *a bit confused as She tries to follow the different opinions offered*

Lemuel~~~ ~grins at penny~ Suitably ambiguous don't you think?

mischief{WH}~~~ Mistress Asellus, slaves are not permitted to take offense at whatever they are called...(at least not suppoedly on gor)

penny{Kyo}~~~ *grinning and winking*
Your objectivity is to be commended, Master Lemuel...

Asellus~~~ Okay, sure, mischief. But we're not really on Gor and I know there are some girls out there who don't like being called sluts. Was just wondering. I guess the RT perspective gets in the way....*chuckling and adding*..as it has a tendency to do.

Lemuel~~~ ~winks at penny~

Paedur~~~ Chuckles as Master Lemuel defines Me as a "slut" LOL
Suitably so I might add. ROFLMAO

mischief{WH}~~~ Mistress Asellus, m's refuses to answer (respectfully) due to the fact of how many times she's been slapped down when she speaks of r/t feelings/situations....she apologizes...

Kayla~~~ I personally would never use the term at least unless I really didn't like the girl...or Woman...LOL

Lemuel~~~ ~grins at Paedur~ I've heard men described as "sluts" before, though they usually dance to a different drummer...~chuckles~

Errand Knight~~~ Lemuel: well put ..very much My own feelings on the subject

Asellus~~~ *nodding at mischief* 'Tis what you feel and that is fine, this being forum. I'm not looking to judge...just honestly wondering is all. *shrugs*

mischief{WH}~~~ Mistress, it has not mattered, she has been told clearly that this is roleplay and that real feelings/situations do not have a place in this forum...but she thanks You for asking...

Paedur~~~ Well to Me, anyone who is with Me for a period of time almost becomes a slut.
but simply for My use not for all. *S*

penny{Kyo}~~~ *chuckling at Master Padeur's words*
penny hears that tune a lot in her own house...

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to E.K.~ All kidding aside, I do believe the difinition I gave is appropriate for Gor. A FW that craves sex will likely seek out a collar to satisfy her need. A slave may not be a slut but will be happier if she is since she won't have a choice of who uses her.


Other Gorean Homes

Kayla~~~ If anyone has another topic pleas whisper it to Me *ss*

Kayla~~~ Moving forward *ss* Next topic:

What are common threads and rules between different Gorean Houses?
What is expected protocols?

penny{Kyo}~~~ *listening to the new topic*
Hmmmm... respect for the house Owner, penny would suppose to be a universal protocol...

Errand Knight~~~ in response to the topic Kayla has listed I think we often think too much about gor and not enough about our homestone ...clearly there are some fundamental philosophys beyond the three pillars which are common to all of gor ..but it is very clear that Normans world was one of difference on gor ..where ones principle allegence was to ones home (whether homestone or not) and that there are substantial differences between cites and what is expected say on Ar or Port Kar..let alone the non city dwellers, nomads ,and other races on gor

Paedur~~~ Ok Errand Knight, so tell Me, as I am still learning what is different about these homes?
and what is the same? *S*

Kayla~~~ rolling My eyes

Asellus~~~ *Still listening*

jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ *confused as she tries to keep up with both topics*

Kayla~~~ One would think there were some common standards amoung different sites but if so I have not found them in ALL... Some are closer to each other than others but each site is different depending on who runs the site and their own personal veiws on Gor

Errand Knight~~~ Paedur: there are too many differences to say..but as a simple example take what sets our home apart in Port Kar..we are gors main port and as a result are something of an unrefined place with many fugitives etc. our city is filthy (by gorean standards) and life is far cheaper and for the moment, we dont have a homestone (yet), we are ruled by a council where the ubars dont really have control, we are threatened by two traditional enemies, our food and drink have greater variety than is common (we are traders), our clothing differs in part from other parts of gor and of course our slaves are the best on all gor

Lemuel~~~ ~looks to Kayla~ Thank You for leading the forum tonight, Lady. I greatly appreciate it. ~S~

Paedur~~~ Aye Errand Knight.
Much like any place We have Our particulars and they have theirs.
So as I visit other places, what can I expect in treatment? besides being shunned as an outsider.

Kayla~~~ Some actually will not shun You just because you are a Stranger... Others will kill you on site if not known to One of them... There is no common trend at all... Just depends of the whims of the room

ErrandKnight~~~ Paedur: visiting other sites set in other places can be a lot of fun ..and some are more welcoming than others. Many are accomodating of ones ignorance of their lifestyle on gor..others less so. it can be as simple as a slaves service ..lets say at a nomad encampment.

Paedur~~~ Corrects Lady Kayla and smiles darkly.
Well some have tried to kill Me and as of yet, they have not succeeded. *WEG*
Laughs loudly reaching down to the wrapped "stick".

Deirdre~~~ I have been lucky, I guess. I've traveled a lot.......but have only been in danger once in the 4 years that I've been on Gor. I think that One needs to do a bit of research first.....and reading, of course.....before One wanders into any Gorean site. Better still is to listen to Tthose who have been there before.

Errand Knight~~~ not unlike here it is wise to declare you are a traveller from Port Kar and the site you ate from and to sit and observe, giving due curtesy to those whos home it is. I have not been challenged as yet..in fact the worst time Ive had is travelling thru the northern forests where the panther girls hide

Kayla~~~ well You are right I should ahve said attempt to kill... I was reading the rules for the new site of Savage Wolf which states all strangers will would put to the stake if not known to a Member of the Home... and all FW with out escort would be either enslaved or ransomed and all kollared slaves if not with their owners would be killed, or captured

Paedur~~~ I see Lady Kayla. and I am just haing a bit of fun with You and the words. *wink*

As always Paedur... Thats alright... I am used to dancing on My toes... LOL.. as it should be with a FW around a Man

Paedur~~~ Yes Lady Kayla as it should be. LOL

Paedur~~~ Thank You Lady Kayla for the forum this night.

Kayla~~~ ~looking around the room~ Anything else?

Kayla~~~ Well if there is nothing else lets call it an early night... and again please look at the test boards and post your opinions so the Council will make an informed decision *ss*

jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ a girl thanks You, Mistress Kayla for moderating the forum this night.. interesting and informative..