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Cliques.. the good and bad
The Kailla
The begging to enter question
Issues concerning the slaves

Cliques.. the good and bad

Rollo the Ax~~~ It is good to see so many folks here.... Shall We begin ???? LOL..LOL.. get things running on time..??...LOL....

Kyoto~~~ Sounds good to me, Rollo...

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding~ Aye Captain, by all means.

Rollo the Ax~~~ Okay, same rules as always.... The first topic is a carry over from a week ago or so... so here it is.... ** CLIQUES or groups of ppl trying to take over or force their opinions or rules on the rest ??? Well how do we deal with this do we get it all out in the open who are the cliques and who are the war camps and have a great big discussion on it? **

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~listening as Master Rollo speaks~

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckles~ I don't know that there's anything that can be done about *cliques* forming. People of like mind tend to stick together.

sevda{SabreWolf}~~~ ~listens quietly~

kanda{K}~~~ *listens *

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~listens to Master Rollo and then Master Lemuel~*~ and then might that push some people away and make divisions among those of GS that don't feel the same way? shirin sees this as a bad thing all around

Mandi~~~ ~~kneeling in furs beside Cavy~~ I do not know, Captain. I know We sometimes seek Those Whom We like and sometimes We seek Those Who have something to teach Us. And sometimes We have more in Common with Some than Others.

Kyoto~~~ Wooo, big topic. I don't know that there is anyway to really get it out in the open without seeming to be attacking anyone. Seems like people who get in a clique like that get very defensive when it's brought up.

calia{GS}~~~ *~she listens,....~*

Lemuel~~~ ~shrugging~ I think it's only a bad thing if O/one lets it be, shirin. It's rare that two people will agree on *everything*

Mandi~~~ ~~agreeing with Lemuel~~ There is nothing more boring than total agreement. Why bother to interact when One can just talk to One's Self, except for the fact that One would look daft. But sometimes We are afraid of the debate getting lively and degenerating into a personal attack.

shirin{SholGar}~~~ oh, she agrees completely Master Lemuel, more so she feels this is a topic she will avoid altogether, it could get ugly and she's not touchin it with a 100 foot pole

kanda{K}~~~ *smiles at shirin*

Rollo the Ax~~~ I agree that it is only natural to gravitate towards those that think or feel basiclly the same as we do ourselves.. The problem comes when those that * group * together like this come to think that * THEIR * ideas or way or the ONLY way to do things... and when they are not open or forth coming in their dealing with others... to snipe or harrass or undermine those that don't think the same.....

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~nodding head in agreement with her Owner~

calia{GS}~~~ listening...~* a slave truly uncertain were the root of discussion stems from ~* but calia has always felt welcomed and accepted here, in Gorean Shores...
there is an obvious divsion of who is ~friends~ with Who ..
Who is closer with who ~ and so on ...
but that is so much r/t ..
we cant get along with everyone..~* however, kindness ,gentleness on a civil level and of course respect for Free should be expected

Kayla~~~ Well personally I think cliques are fine untill they become a problem with the site as a whole... the Castes themselves are cliques... the Tarnsmen, the Warriors the slaves the Healers and so forth.. I know I personally promote unity amoung the FreeWomen for online We are few and far between but when these cliques become "war camps" and tear at Our Home then I think they should be brought forward and dealt with openlly

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding agreement with the Captain~ Aye Rollo, and there are procedures for dealing with grievances that should be followed first.

Kyoto~~~ The trouble is, this could get to the point where it becomes very divisive, causing people to forget those that are friends in favor of supporting someone else. It just makes more sense to open up and just follow your heart.

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to Kyoto~
The thing that I would see as a potential problem is if someone were to support another's case more out of loyalty than true agreement. There's nothing wrong with having your own oppinion or with disagreeing with someone you call friend.

Mandi~~~ ~~smile lines appear over veils~~

fallen~angel~~~ ~*listening*~

sevda{SabreWolf}~~~ ~listening as everyone speaks~

Kyoto~~~ I agree, if you are friends with someone, it is ok to disagree, the trouble is when people forget to say things in the open.

Mandi~~~ Agreeing with Lemuel about a grievance procedure, but wonders how to make one work. When We have to deal with these characters and try to talk here, it gets even worse. I think it is up to each individual to find a frequency to communicate on. But sometimes that will take months to do while things get even further FUBAR.

Kayla~~~ And some disagreeing just to stir the pot...LOL... I have been known in a Forum to take a an opposite veiw than My own just to get a conversation going... but I have seen others do it just to start trouble or make some one uncomfortable...

Mandi~~~ Aye, Kyoto. I, for one, start feeling daft when all the talk is in pm or on Q or elsewhere and I'm in here talking to Myself with eight or nine icons on the screen at the bottom. I should just leave at that point because there is no point to be here then.

Lemuel~~~ ~shrugs~ It depends on what You mean by "in the open" Kyoto. If You mean it should be dealt with directly by those involved, I would tend to agree. If You mean that dirty laundry should be aired in public, I wouldn't.

kanda{K}~~~ *listens intently..watching the faces of T/those who speak*

Lemuel~~~ ~grins at the Healer~ Aye, I have played the "devil's advocate" on occasion just to get the other side voiced.

Mandi~~~ Lemuel. We sometimes forget that there are all sorts of rooms besides alcoves around here and they could be used more creatively to set a place where things can get done without being aired in public. Or even switch to email or something else entirely different.

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding~ Aye Lady Mandi, If someone has a problem with Me or something I've done I would expect them to come to Me and discuss it privately - either in a private room, email, whatever - before chastising Me publicly.

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~listens~*~

Kayla~~~ I agree Lemuel... The parties involved should get together and work it out and if they have to ask for a Mediator if need to.. Hopefully a little bit of patience and calm talking will work out the problem

Mandi~~~ There are, however times when it is annoying to be slammed in pm by Persons too chicken to roleplay it in the open, and it is distracting. And Noone else can see what is going on. And balance is hard to achieve when One is distracted or angry. I think that r/t anger doesn't belong in here, except in small doses.

Rollo the Ax~~~ The *rub * comes when things that could and SHOULD be dealt with in private, are pushed into the limelight...either by design or lack of thought, or once again, because of some hidden agenda.... this the sort of CRAP that has no place in a room where those there SAY that they are honorable !!! That is where MOST of the trouble comes from....I think....

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to Mandi~ Aye, I understand that, but that's why We have a Council, to sort out problems that can't be solved on One's own. As Kayla said, if necessary, there are always moderators available.

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding at the Captain's words~ Aye, to nip and poke at someone that way is cowardly IMO.

kanda{K}~~~ *kanda nods ..thinking it would be less stressful if some things could be dealt with privately..*

Mandi~~~ ~~laughing~~Aye, Rollo. Sometimes things happen because We simply fail to believe Each Other the first time something is said or We take it too literally. ~~shakes head~~

Rollo the Ax~~~ Lemuel, the Council should only have to step in and deal with REAL problems, and not be seen as Parents needing to paddle the kids when they act up....That is NOT the job * I * was thinking about when I said that I would defend GS, and honor the Gorean way and philosophy...

Kayla~~~ It is easy to take something wrong and things to go screwy... it is all in How we take something *S*

Lemuel~~~ ~smiles~ Aye Captain, and I was careful to qualify My statement with the words "if necessary" ~G~
Really, anyone that is an adult should be able to deal with some of the more petty stuff We've seen privately w/o loosing their cool.

Errand Knight~~~ thinks that there are times when Oour mood gets the better of Uus and sometimes some slack should be cut amongst Ffriends

Kyoto~~~ How about we go by the old axiom, "everything I need to know, I learned in kindergarten"? We learned, or we should have learned, how to work and play well with others while there.

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to E.K.~ Aye, and it doesn't hurt to keep in mind that it's hard to distinguish between sarcasm and honest statements in the written word.

Rollo the Ax~~~ Okay, okay... I think that we ALL can agree that everybody is going to have * friends * that they are closer to than others...correct ?? So the basic idea of cliques or clubs or whatever you call them is something we CAN'T do away with completely... BUT, I think that EVERYBODY should leave their * baggage * at the door, and come into GS with an open mind and open heart.... Come here to have FUN and enjoy ourselves... when walking through the door becomes a pain in the ass, WHY do it ?????

Mandi~~~ ~~smiles~~ But would not too much harmony totally eradicate the sense of adventure and the fear factor that Some seek in here?

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to Kyoto~ Aye that's a good one. Or how about "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"?

Errand Knight~~~ Lemuel: or indeed cultural difference ..just like earthens ..Wwe cum from different places and some of what is said is more than reasonable to some but not others

lissa{GS}t~~~ this girl has found it easy to "belong" she hasn't felt shunned or unwanted.....but she has not felt fearless!

fallen~angel~~~ ~*nods in agreement with Master Errand Knight*~

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckles~ No one is saying We have to be all *lovey-dovey* just, polite and respectful in Our disagreements. ~G~ Just like a debate team. ~chuckles~

His prissy harlot{Shar}~~~ a girl speaks as a somewhat frequent visitor and on almost ever occasion she's always been treated with respect from the slaves and the Free here.. course the whore is a good girl..~flashing a wide perfect smile.. she flushed.. then fell silent~

calia{GS}~~~ *~whispering to lissa~* slaves serve best when scared ,edgy and uneasy...*smiling to her~*

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to the Man~ Aye E.K. there is that to keep in mind as well. The internet isn't limited to the U.S. and Australia. ~chuckles~

fallen~angel~~~ no it also reaches England ~*impish lil grin*~

kanda{K}~~~ *looks to Master Rollo..agreeing..thinking it would indeed be best for A/all to come in as Master Rollo says.. knowing this is one very special reason why she enjoys it so much at GS and why she has been here for so long*

Cavy~~~ yes it does...

Cailleach~~~ Even Ireland has come into 20th century, giggles

Gornt~~~ Mine has whispered the topic
and I believe that cliques can ruin the Shores

Gornt~~~ whether the cliques be between Free or Slaves

Mandi~~~ I find encouragement in the new arrivals here, some of Whom pledge, and that is partly because They may find some kindred souls. So, We are not doing all of it wrong. Not everything has to be a success 100% of the time to be worthwhile.

kanda{K}~~~ *smiles over at Mistress Mandi*

Gornt~~~ I aggree with Mandi

for GS to sustain itself it has to continue to attract people that want to come back

sevda{SabreWolf}~~~ ~is glad she ain't in no clique kinda likes being the lone troublesome slut~ hehehehe

Stavros~~~ I just want to say... putting my 2 copper tarsks in.. I like coming to GS, because it is fun for me.. If it wasn't I wouldn't be here... Thank you all!!!

inara{G}t~~~ *listens quietly*

Kayla~~~ LOL... leader of the pack is more like it sev...LOL

calia{GS}~~~ *~smiling to sev~* shrugging..
calia doesn't get along with anyone,sooo she isn't in one either ~lil sunkissed nose wrinkling~ *l*

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to Stavros~ Aye, that is why I pledged in the first place.

kanda{K}~~~ *winks at sevda*

His prissy harlot{Shar}~~~ ~agrees with the Mistress.. then whispers~

she's a pot stirrer.. ~smirks~

Gornt~~~ and that is why We all come to GS Stavros, because it is fun, it is outside the normal
and gives us a chance to roleplay

Kyoto~~~ *Grinning at Stavros*
It's good to have you here, that way we know where you are.

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~smiles, loving GS and all it has to offer~*~

sevda{SabreWolf}~~~ ~blinks at the Mistress's words~
not this girl.. she can barely lead herself not yet a pack hehehe

Lemuel~~~ ~raising an eybrow and pouting My lips at calia~

kanda{K}~~~ *kanda nods when she hears Them say They come as its fun..knowing sometimes this tavern is so real to her..wishing sometimes in fact..that it was*

sevda{SabreWolf}~~~ ~laughs at calia thinking uh~huh tell sev another~

Lemuel~~~ ~laughing at Kyoto's comment~ Aye, there is that! ~chuckles~

Stavros~~~ ~chuckleing at Kyoto~ yep you'll need to know where I am.. *EG* ~glancing at your purse~

Errand Knight~~~ there are so Mmany in here ..old and new ..who share a commitment ..and who live that out here ..will always be flare ups ..and sadly some will be terminal ..but for the most part Oour common adventure lives on

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~frown at her heart calia~*~ thought we had something special, sis? ~*~giggles~*~

Cavy~~~ *nods in agreement with EK*

Gornt~~~ ~nodding to EK~

Gornt~~~ ~looking from calia to sev~

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding~ You're right E.K. - best not to take things to seriously or too personally.

calia{GS}~~~ ~*soft laughter spills the wenches lips as she smiles to Everyone...~*

Stavros~~~ ~spinning my dagger on the table, looking to EK~ Isn't that kinda like real life... ~chuckleing~ As I'm in total agreement... *EG*

Gornt~~~ how many have seen My Gorean curses?
&#@$%HR@F )($#*@*$Y%Y*@

Gornt~~~ of course, this is roleplay but we don't leave who we are at the door

Rollo the Ax~~~ Folks, we can * chase our tails * all day saying that this or that is right or wrong... But until each and every person takes the PERSONAL responcablity to act properly or to hold themselves to a level of action and REaction, then this will just keep on keeping on.... again, and again....

Stavros~~~ LOL... I won't take that personal this time Gornt.. LOL!!!

inara{G}t~~~ *mock look of surprise having never seen her Master curse. Trying not to giggle*

Gornt~~~ ~laughs~

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to Rollo~ Aye, You can lead a kailla to water, but you can't make him drink.....

Lemuel~~~ ......of course you can always drown it trying. ~G~

Kayla~~~ LOL

fallen~angel~~~ but you can make a slave drink *grins*

Errand Knight~~~ hopes the slaves have been drinking their slave wine


The Kailla

Rollo the Ax~~~ Well... I think that perhaps we have flogged this old horse plumb to death for long enough.... Anybody have a different topic ????

fallen~angel~~~ ~*awaits the next topic*~

Gornt~~~ what is a kanilla? (kailla)

fallen~angel~~~ it's an animal Master Gornt.

Lemuel~~~ ~G~ That's kailla, Gornt. It's a four-legged, carnivorous mount common to the southern plains, the barrens and the Tahari...

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~whispers to Master Gornt~*~ it's in book ten, it's in the mail

Gornt~~~ thanks Lemuel, I haven't come across that one yet

Gornt~~~ ~smiling to Sholgar's~

Stavros~~~ ~flippin through my books.. ohhhh yea..... that's what it is, looking around the room with a raised eyebrow~ *EG*


The mount of the Wagon Peoples, unknown in the northern hemisphere of Gor, is the terrifying but beautiful kaiila. It is a silken, carnivorous, lofty creature, graceful, long-necked, smooth-gaited. It is viviparous and undoubtedly mammalian, though there is no suckling of the young. The young are born vicious and by instinct, as soon as they can struggle to their feet, they hunt. It is an instinct of the mother, sensing the birth, to deliver the young animal in the vicinity of game. I suppose, with domesticated kaiila, a bound verr or a prisoner might be cast to the newborn animal. The kaiila, once it eats its fill, does not touch food for several days.
Book 4: Nomads of Gor, page 13

Gornt~~~ I have been called an animal too fa, but never a kailla

fallen~angel~~~ There are two varieties of kaiila, the southern kaiila and the desert or sand kaiila. The earlier books stated that kaiila did not exist in the northern hemisphere but this was later changed as the Red Savage in the Barrens have kaiila. The two varieties are very similar. The southern kaiila are used by the Wagon Peoples as mounts. It is a silken, lofty, and graceful animal. It is long necked, smooth gaited, and carnivorous. It is mammalian but doesn't suckle its young. The young are born vicious and can hunt as soon as they struggle to their feet. The mother's instinct is to deliver the young near game. Once a kaiila eats its fill, it won't eat for several days. They are extremely agile and can easily outmaneuver a high tharlarion. They require less food than a tarn. They normally stands about twenty to twenty-two hands at the shoulder. They can cover as much as six hundred pasangs a day. Its head bears two large eyes, one on each side, and the eyes are triply lidded so it can travel in adverse weather like storms. It is most dangerous at these times and often hunts then. Some are colored black. They also have long, triangular tongues, long ears and four rows of fangs. They are trained to avoid the thrown spear.

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ Thanks for the quote, sev

sevda{SabreWolf}~~~ You're welcome Master

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~whispering softly~.. it's being covered in August's issue of the Tattler.. along with more animals ~lowering eyes and resuming scribe work~

inara{G}t~~~ *listens to sevda*

Gornt~~~ thanks sev, I read that one too, must not have stuck

Kyoto~~~ *Grinning as I listen to fa, remembering the silken haired kaiila I rode as a youth in the Tahari.*

fallen~angel~~~ ~*smiles at Master Kyoto and wonders what it would be like to ride one*~

sevda{SabreWolf}~~~ You're welcome Master Gornt

Errand Knight~~~ thinks of the animals He has ridden

Stavros~~~ ~tapping my fingers on the table~

sevda{SabreWolf}~~~ ~thinks of the Men who smelled like animals that have ridden her and shudders with a chuckle~

Gornt~~~ I rode some of those animals too EK, and am trying not to remember

Kyoto~~~ *Reading fa's question from her dreamy expression*
They would have an odd gate, being that they are bipedal, takes some getting used to.... besides, slaves ride them strapped across the saddle, not sitting on it.

fallen~angel~~~ ~*laffin softly as a girl reads sev's mind*~

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~listening and looking towards the dais~..

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~snorts laffin as she looks to sev~

Lemuel~~~ ~laughing at sevda's comment~

fallen~angel~~~ aiiii Master but fa has never been on one, she has only been on a Tarn, although that was in the basket, she was too busy being scared to enjoy it

Gornt~~~ ~remembering one in the sack~

Stavros~~~ LOL at Gornt!


The begging to enter question

Rollo the Ax~~~ Well folks.... any other topics, or should we call it a night ?????

Gornt~~~ what happened to the slave posting debate?

Rollo the Ax~~~ ?? What * slave posting * debate, Gornt ????

Gornt~~~ well last week galah brought up that maybe the slaves shouldn't have to beg entry

Errand Knight~~~ *looks to the slave post*

Lemuel~~~ ~nods~ Aye Gornt, and there was more talk on the matter in the slave discussions.

inara{G}t~~~ This one thinks that if the slaves have to beg entry in the books. Then it should be like that here.

Rollo the Ax~~~ Oh, that .... It is a matter that will be brought before the Council some time soon.... but until it is, all slaves must still beg to enter GS.... okay ???

Gornt~~~ well I think it need to be discussed here but there is not enough time left tonight for such and important topic

Gornt~~~ alright, but I think there should be debate here as well

Lemuel~~~ ~shrugs~ I don't know what more could be said on the issue that wasn't brought up last week or in the slave discussion.

Rollo the Ax~~~ Okay, perhaps next week this topic can be brought up again....


Issues concerning the slaves

Stavros~~~ ~raising an eyebrow~ ohhh.. that might be my comment that I posted on the board.. I thought it might be a good chance to discuss between Free Men the issues that are at hand with the slaves..

Kayla~~~ what issue was that Stavros?

fallen~angel~~~ was a discussion at the Forum about 2 weeks ago...

Stavros~~~ The issue was only for the Free Men to discuss the notes from the slave meetings that's all... Review their topics of discussion and see if we can potentially come to a resolution on them...

Stavros~~~ ~Looking to Rollo~ the main point I was trying to come across was the fact that the Free Men review them in a private forum and express their opinions about them..

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to Stavros~ We have done such in the past. We held a Men's forum every Thursday for a while, but they've fallen by the wayside due to lack of interest.

Stavros~~~ Just a general note, for Us Free Men to discuss the concerns of the slaves, if they mean anything to Us...

Mandi~~~ ~~listening and interested in this discussion~~

Kayla~~~ Why Stavros? I am confused.... ~smiles~ what would the Men say... Just My FW curiosity perking up ~laughing softly~

shirin{SholGar}~~~ maybe the Master's could start them back up again? summer in the US is almost over

Kyoto~~~ They mean a great deal to me, Stavros

Mandi~~~ ~~smiles @ Kayla~~ curiousity is troublesome in a FW.

calia{GS}~~~ agreeing with shirin,as calia's head nods..~*

Lemuel~~~ ~looking to shirin~ I don't think that vacations had much to do with the lack of interest, but We could try to start them up again.

Mandi~~~ One problem, Lem may be that some of Us come into v/t to escape appointments and schedules and just want moments to flow without imposing obligations on v/t. ~~laughs~~ But We want to make this meaningful. Kind of a balance there.

Rollo the Ax~~~ as for a Mens discussion of the slave notes ??? That to could be done if enough were interested in it... but just what good or how many changes would come from it remains a question to also address....another point is that the slave class or discussion is a chance for the girls to * blow off stream * among themselves or have a good rant and rave about just what is bugging them.... to digg too deeply into this might just make them LESS open or willing to get things off their chests.....

Stavros~~~ ~looking at Kyoto~ well again I am trying to re-kindle the intersts of Gor, and it has valeu to Me meaning that the slaves portray how it is stated in the books... No offence to the Free Women... I was disturbed and enlightened after reading the slave notes..

Mandi~~~ And the Free Men's forum is a great idea. The FW Forum is sparsely attended as well, but it is meaningful to online Gor.

Kayla~~~ LOL... I know Mandi and it has gotten Me in trouble more than once *S*... But it is just a small failing I have ~smiling under the veil~ Atleast I don't throw ramberries....

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding~ Yes, I think that is much of the reason why they didn't do well. They did better when We opened the discussions to everyone, but even then attendence was spotty. ~S~

shirin{SholGar}~~~ Master Lemuel, just that shirin knows how things have gone for slave discussion classes, sometimes we have two, sometimes we have ten, but we always meet every hand, it's predictable and we always hope more will come next hand ~smiles~ just a though Master, that we should not give up trying to get more involved

Gornt~~~ I liked the FM Forum

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to Rollo~ Aye, but the notes can be a useful barometer of how the slaves are feeling.

Kayla~~~ Mandi this is just why We never published notes of the FW Forums...LOL... So No One would pick them apart....LOL ~winking at the FW~

shirin{SholGar}~~~ but some good could come of it Master Rollo, shirin is more than willing to risk it, our notes have always been open and public to all the Free to read

Rollo the Ax~~~ folks, the * minutes * or record of what is said in slave class, the forum, the other forum, etc. .... are ALL kept and posted... for ANYBODY interested enough to go and read them.... the question is always, who and how many ever DO go and look ????? Your idea, Stavros, has merit... but just how much good or change it MIGHT result in remains an open question.....

Mandi~~~ ~~laughing~~ Karm is upset that I did not scribe them well in Her absence. I can't multitask with You guys cracking Me up.

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ I know shirin, it just gets hard when no one shows up for two or three weeks in a row. I'd rather be drinking paga than sitting in a room alone. ~G~

Mandi~~~ ~~laughing~~ Well, Lemuel as long as it does not conflict with Poetry night at TEI, I'll attend until it picks up.

shirin{SholGar}~~~ yes, that can be discouraging Master Lemuel ~*~nods with understanding of the problem~*~

Gornt~~~ I will be there when they start, I might be late but I will be there

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckles at Lady Mandi~ Thanks for the support. Really, if there is interest I am more than willing to start them up again.

Stavros~~~ ~throwing my hands up~ well.. if the slaves don't mean anything then we don't need to talk about it..
If you don't address the issues then the issues never changes.. If you at least entertain the issue then there might be some change.. and definately learning of what pleases who...

Mandi~~~ I hope My travelling on business and finding other Gorean activities does not diminish My pledge here. I cannot live in a paga tavern full time.

Rollo the Ax~~~ Well....I think that about covers everything for today.... I need to get going, so if there are no major objections, I'll call this forum to a close...

sevda{SabreWolf}~~~ nice forum Master Rollo

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to the Senior Captain~ Aye Rollo, thanks for hosting another interesting forum. ~S~

Mandi~~~ Well done, Captain Rollo. *S*

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~nibbling bottom lip as she listens.. head turns hearing Master Rollo call the forum to a close.. looking to the huge Torvaldslander on the dais.. softly~ the girl thanks You Master Rollo for holding these meetings

Kayla~~~ ~looking up at Stavros more confused~

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~smiles to Master Stavros, her gentle hazels falling down to rest on His boots~*~

Rollo the Ax~~~ Thanks for showing up all.... same time, same place next week.... I hope that everybody is well and happy till next we meet..... Be Well, all.........

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~whispers~*~ thank You Master Rollo

Kayla~~~ Be well Captain and Thank You as always for leading such a lively discussion... Be well

calia{GS}~~~ calia's voice faintly lifts..~*
thank You Master Rollo for hosting most informative forums....*~her eyes lowered~*