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Creating a story line (Roleplay) using the Auxilliary Board

FW and Obedience

Rollo the Ax~~~ LOL...LOL...I guess that * the big guy * is here, so lets get this show on the road, okay??? LOL...LOL.. Anybody with a topic they wish discussed, PM Me for a turn to do so, same rules as always.

Asellus~~~ *Seeing the Captain enter, She shifts a bit in Her furs and extracts the writing utensils and rence paper from Her satchel in preparation for the forum to begin*

Asellus~~~ *Clearing Her throat, writing utensil poised over the paper as She speaks*
The carryover topic was Mine and I asked: Does one truly have to be a slave to express one's obedience to Male will?

Mandi~~~ ~~pulling veils forward and taking a long sip of blackwine, pondering the question at hand and remaining silent to hear what opinions come out~~

Phen~~~ Can I get more conformation on that question? Is it if You are in a "Companionship", or is to any Man?

Asellus~~~ In general, Phen. With any Man.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Well take it from Your point of view Phen...Are You not obedient to Bolt, even though You are not His slave?

penny{Kyo}~~~ *thinking on the topic for a moment*
One can be either free or slave, and express respect for a male's opinion, and defer to his lead... though in most cultures of our modern society today, it isn't as frequently seen, even within marriages, for so many women feel that happiness revolves around independence, and therefore lose out on the opportunity to learn how to trust another by deferring her will to her spouse.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Well I feel that in certain ways FW can be fully obedient. But then again if a Master walks in and tells a FW to strip her clothing and submit, well I have not met a FW that is willing to do that...

Gornt~~~ But is the FW fully obedient because of fear?

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Interesting point Gornt...perhaps that is true...Maybe they are obedient out of respect?

Phen~~~ I donít think obedient is the right word, maybe more respect. The only one that I would truly OBEY is Bolt...

Mandi~~~ One line Most Free Women would draw is We do not address the Men as "Master." To do such would be tantamount to submitting, wouldn't it?

Kyoto~~~ But, CD, the FW should accept that it could happen, and if it does, she needs to be willing to accept her fate, or be sure to have her protector here with her at all times... this is Gor and Gorean Males won't accept less than full obedience on the part of any woman, free or not...

Gornt~~~ Maybe, in an FC it should be mutual respect, no?

Asellus~~~ But does the woman have to be a slave to express full obedience...?

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ True Kyoto...I know I would be pissed if anyone made a pass at My Woman...But a FW cannot be face-stripped b/c she refuses to do something a Master says...There is a fine line that the Ladies must walk.

Mandi~~~ ~~listening to My Friend, Asellus and thinking before I speak~~

penny{Kyo}~~~ In any companionship of any significance, there must be respect for each of the parties, and there generally is, even from a male toward a slave, or the relationship can only go but so far...
The issue of obedience is somewhat different, for respect and obedience are not the same matter...

Phen~~~ Asellus, I would say no to full obedience to Her Man and that would be where I draw the line *s*

Kayla~~~ I am obedient to the rules of GS... I respect the will of My Captains and the wishes of Shadowglade in particular, but Men as a whole... if a Man in the Tavern told Me to serve Him because there were no slaves about... I would laugh......

Rollo the Ax~~~ From My point of view, this seems like a question of just that, a point of view... somebody thinks a certain thing is or should be this way or that, and not everybody else agrees, so it becomes a point of contention... I would say, it is the basic * nature of the beast * for EVERY woman to admit to a basic obedience to the male will... the DEGREE is all that is different from FW to slave.... LOL..LOL.. and THAT can change with neck jewelry....LOL

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ But is it not a FWís duty to offer a drink if No slaves are around...That has always been My understanding....

penny{Kyo}~~~ Mistress Asellus, penny has many friends from India in her r/t life, and the women show obedience as well as deference to their spouses, but it is a cultural imprinting issue... it isn't seen so often in our culture here, and so it is likely a more foreign concept to play out as a free woman, though in other societies, it is the accepted norm to be unquestioningly obedient to all males, spouse or not... whether or not any particular view is a correct one is a matter of one's perspective...

Gornt~~~ ~listening~

Mandi~~~ Some I fear, Many I respect, and respect is a better motivator for Me than fear. I respect Most here.
Complete blind obedience to Anyone is highly unlikely for Me, but that does not seem to be required.

Phen~~~ I would offer to serve a Man if there were no slaves around; He would not need to ask. But as Rollo states that is My point of view...

Asellus~~~ *Nodding at the responses whilst She pens furiously upon the fluttering pieces of rence*

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Nodding to Phen* And that is out of respect and hospitality..not so much obedience...

penny{Kyo}~~~ *listening and nodding*
Exactly.. if one has company in their home, would one scoff at the idea of serving food or drink to their guests? It has traditionally fallen to women to act as hostesses and keep guests entertained and offer beverages, and they aren't considered slaves for showing basic hospitality...

Mandi~~~ Aye, Phen. In general I would offer to serve, out of a sense of hospitality, but there are times when I will not offer to serve. It is optional, rather than a duty.

Asellus~~~ I suppose the question came to mind upon discovering a quote, but now I cannot remember where I found it. However, it also comes to mind when one takes into consideration the vast numbers of slaves online. Can a woman not be obedient and still remain Free....I guess that's also what I had in mind at the time of the question. *chuckling as She tries to remember*

Asellus~~~ penny, My thoughts exactly! *ss*

Neo~~~ There is a problem with many views a society holds at time ..... One can be very important to a society and still act submissively. We assume at times that the most important make the loudest noises but this may not always be true!

Kayla~~~ CD, actually no ... FW in their own homes would but not in a paga Tavern... in GS We do if We are protected well at the time and know well who We make the offer to.... but it is a great honor and by the strictest rules would not be done, but then FW would not even enter a paga tavern in Port Kar if this was really Gor... so there are some allowances for the online environment

Phen~~~ Yes CD, but an inbuilt thing as well. If I have visitors in RT regardless of if I know them, if Bolt has brought someone home the first thing I ask is would You like a drink...Most women on Gor are trained in how to serve and how to please a Man; it is a way of life...Something that women on earth have not done since the first would war in western society that is...

Mandi~~~ I will not offer to serve Those Who disrespect My Home, or Those who aren't known here and seem to not understand the difference between Free and slave.

although a girl didn't stay for the forum.. she'd like to offer the following quote.

Some of them looked enviously at Lara, others with hatred. Their look said to her why are you not clad as we are, why do you not wear a collar and serve as we serve?
To my surprise Lara removed her cloak and took the pot of Kal-da from one of the girls and began to serve the men.
Some of the girls looked at her in gratitude for she was free and in doing this she showed them that she did not regard herself as above them.
"That," I said to Kron, pointing out to Lara, "is the Tatrix of Tharna."
As Andreas looked upon her he said softly, "She is truly a Tatrix."
Linna arose and now began to help with the serving.
Outlaw of Gor, page 226

Gornt~~~ I agree with CD that the lot of the FW is difficult, but, Asellus, I donít think blind obedience is required

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *agreeing with penny*....Like Rollo said..All women have obedience up to a certain point, but to be fully obedient, I think a Woman would have to do EVERYTHING a Master said, and that is something a FW can not do.

Kyoto~~~ *Grinning in pride as I listen to penny, giving her an extra special, though gentle, squeezy hug*
Excellent point, lil one... excellent

galah{RA}~~~ this one could see a FW serve her Man and those he is sitting with if no slave is around to serve, but sure couldn't see a FW serve some stranger that came in...so would it not depend on who is being served? After all, those the FW are serving are probably the same ones that would show her protection?

penny{Kyo}~~~ *smiling to Master Neo*
Quite true... great movements have occurred throughout history based on subtle campaigns, without always having to "carry a big stick"...

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Chuckling at penny's comment, knowing too much about History himself.*

Mandi~~~ Aye, galah, very good point.
It depends a great deal on Who it is as to what gestures of respect and hospitality are appropriate.

penny{Kyo}~~~ *listening to galah*
It would likely be a situational issue, with no set protocol ever being able to be established as far as FW serving other free... going by one's instincts and following what each feels to be polite behavior seems to be a generally good rule of thumb...

Neo~~~ The importance of slaves on Gor is plain ......... without them Gor would not function as we know it .......... but they are required to be submissive to men .......... they have great importance .......but do it in quietness.

Gornt~~~ ~listening~

Gornt~~~ Slaves must be submissive to all Free, Neo

Rollo the Ax~~~ I think that perhaps we may be discussing apples and oranges here folks, and confusing them as the same thing... obedience is NOT the same as submission... and good manners are not the same as begging for a collar....

Neo~~~ Aye they must be submissive ........... but in their submission can be very important to a society.

Gornt~~~ Well said, Rollo

Asellus~~~ True, Rollo, and I am glad You said that. *nodding with respect*
And....a Free Woman should know the required serves and what to do, in any case, if for no other reason than to remind Her that Her freedom is allowed by the Men. *knowing I've seen that quote somewhere recently*

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Very Good point, My Lady...*S*

penny{Kyo}~~~ *agreeing with Master Rollo*
Obedience can be a facet of submission, but the two terms are not synonymous... and one can be free and still be polite and respectful to males without compromising oneself... again, it is situational, and if a woman perhaps longs to be obedient unquestioningly to the will of a male, she may be discovering a need within herself for a collar...

Gornt~~~ Well if there are no slaves to serve Me and a FW does serve, I expect no elaborate serve, I expect a drink of what I asked for and it not to get spilled on Me

"The Gorean girl is, even if free, accustomed to slavery; she will perhaps own one or more slaves herself; she knows that she is weaker than men and what this can mean; she knows that cities fall and caravans are plundered; she knows she might even, by a sufficiently bold warrior, be captured in her own quarters and, bound and hooded, be carried on tarnback over the walls of her own city. Moreover, even if she is never enslaved, she is familiar with the duties of slaves and what is expected of them; if she should be enslaved she will know, on the whole, what is expected of her, what is permitted her and what is not; moreover, the Gorean girl is literally educated, fortunately or not, to the notion that it is of great importance to know how to please men; accordingly, even girls who will be free companions, and never slaves, learn the preparation and serving of exotic dishes, the arts of walking, and standing and being beautiful, the care of a manís equipment, the love dances of their city, and so on"
~Nomads of Gor, page 63~

Phen~~~ Good one, Asellus, also I feel a FW should also know the serves not only for Her own knowledge but to also offer help to the slaves when they are learning...

Rollo the Ax~~~ Is there much more that can be said about this??? Any other thoughts or inputs??? If not, perhaps we should move on to the next topic...

penny{Kyo}~~~ Quite true... any knowledge that slaves are required to have, the free should be familiar with as well, if for no other reason than to keep the slaves at their best through correction and holding them to high standards... if the free have no idea whether or not a slave is serving in correctness, she cannot be held to the strictest of obedience, and could potentially take advantage of that situation...

Asellus~~~ *Nodding as She pens the last word in on the matter, looking up to Rollo*

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~smiles to Mistress Asellus and Mistress Phen~*~

Asellus~~~ Can We move on to Kyoto's topic if there are no more thoughts on the first question?


Slave Capture

Rollo the Ax~~~ Okay then, lets move on...From Kyoto:
I've noticed, as I am sure many have, that we have slaves that go wandering and get captured... so, how do we prevent this from happening and if it does, how do we get them back if we aren't allowed to raid sites such as JAG?

Kyoto~~~ *Looking to Rollo to see if it is time to move on*

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~beams at hearing the next topic, waits to see what the Masters have to say as this is a hot topic in slave class often~*~

Kyoto~~~ Well, I suppose I should get the ball rolling on my own topic.
Perhaps we should come up with a list of approved sites and rooms within some of those sites that girls from GS can travel to.

Mandi~~~ ~~treading very lightly, but frank and open in clear, kind tones~~
I have been concerned for some of the slaves when they make public posts showing need for their Masters expressed in terms of the Master's long absence as being something of an advertisement saying, "Capture me, my collar is not solid."
I was shocked, though, that one could have a collar and still be captured, seemed tantamount to a raid.

Asellus~~~ I've always had misgivings about online "travelling"...probably for just such reasons....it causes entanglement between two sites and I think the focus should be on Us here in GS. I don't know; I kind of frown on "branching out". I know it sounds horribly closed-minded because I could be increasing My own Gorean knowledge, but I've seen more bad than good come from those who travel....*shrugging softly*

shirin{SholGar}~~~ slaves travel seeking excitement when none is at home ~shrugs~ it's quite terrifying, at least for shirin

Kyoto~~~ *Deciding to play devil's advocate a moment*
But Asellus, girls travel to visit friends when the tavern is empty... shouldn't they be allowed to do so?

Mandi~~~ ~~in mixed agreement with the beautiful Asellus~~ I would differ, in part, Lady, but it is a whole different topic.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ I don't like other places...Never have...I like it here...I think that the girls should spend their time here. Maybe there would always be people here...As far someone being taken from here..Better not be a GS girl..

Asellus~~~ Friends can be added to ICQ, Kyoto. *smiles softly* And I'm sure the desire to meet in the tavern and roleplay together is enjoyable, but then what of the temptation to "play" another role. I'm sure that's happened.

Kayla~~~ I have done a fair bit of traveling in My time... and have met many new people and neat sites.... but it is dangerous for slaves and Free Women alike... privately owned slaves best have permission so that their Owners are not caught unaware and I like Kyoto's suggestion on approved sites for Tavern slaves. Jag supposedly does honor kolars...

penny{Kyo}~~~ The whole traveling issue sort of bothers penny from a realistic roleplay point of view... if a slave lives in a tavern in Port Kar, or belongs to a Master whose holdings are within the city, then how can she realistically teleport to another locale on the opposite side of the continent?
In theory, for a slave to travel so far, she would have to be accompanied by a Master, likely on tarn back or perhaps aboard a ship... if a girl keeps that thought in mind when traveling, she is much more likely to avoid capture, unless capture is her intent in traveling.

Mandi~~~ I think that a moratorium on travel to JAG should be imposed until such time as this issue is ironed out.

Asellus~~~ I don't put My online existence to the test, My Friend. *smiling at Mandi* I would never want to travel unwittingly to the place where Another may ko'lar Me at whim and then I'd have to come running back to GS where I should have been in the first place. Seems like a scheme for attention, in My honest opinion, because of the dramatic tendencies that develop. Do We defend the one in question? Do we raid? What is to be done?

Rollo the Ax~~~ Simply put, on one hand there is NO way to keep such things from happening... and on the other hand, what does it matter??? First, there will always be those that come in to ANY room, and try to * pull stunts *...stealing a slave, stealing a coin box, killing somebody and running ... Hell, the list goes on and on... the question is, WHO CARES if their acts were not done in an HONORABLE Gorean manner ??? If a collared slave gets * captured * while visiting, if the other site has ANY honor, they will return the girl to her Master... if not, then either they have NO honor, or it is some set up drama for the slaves benefit, and some dip shit is helping her be a subbie princess and NOT a Gorean kajira.....

Kayla~~~ and I agree that if Our slaves stayed here and in here then they would find it would not be so empty here.... but if all of them are traveling then of course there is no one here in GS....

Asellus~~~ I agree, penny.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Well put Captain...

galah{RA}~~~ galah thinks some travel to find that "fear factor" that has been discussed before....that element of the unknown that is out there, home is always comfortable and many times empty also

Kyoto~~~ *Looking to sevda as I think*
sevda, why did you travel to a site where capture was a possibility?

Asellus~~~ *Exhaling a saved breath at Rollo's words, nodding Her head in affirmation as She scrawls His words vigorously*

Asellus~~~ GS can't "police" anyone, so it is up to the person behind the monitor, I suppose, to roleplay honourably and accurately.

sevda{SabreWolf}~~~ Master Kyoto because my Master has always allowed sev to travel to that place where His blood brother is Ubar and where sev has friends.

Mandi~~~ You are absolutely correct, Asellus, that We cannot "police" anyone. We can, however, discourage slaves from advertising the absences of their Masters on the public posts, or giving any hint that their collars are not firmly locked.

galah{RA}~~~ this one thought the idea of travel was to possibly find good Masters to lure to GS? heheheheheheeee the idea is to gain ppl., not lose them, but obviously that is not what it means to all

penny{Kyo}~~~ What someone does in another site outside of a Gorean identity is their own business, and truly, penny feels that if each minds their own affairs instead of those of others, the quality of roleplay in all sites would improve, rather than the majority of conversations being about who is doing what and where.

Rollo the Ax~~~ Okay folks, lets take the two cases in point here.. one slave wants released cause she says she has been abandoned, gets another Master to offer to buy her, (which is the proper way ) then has the same guy * capture * her in another site???? BULLSHIT!!! Games and crap... she wants HER way, and the guy goes from acting honorably to caving in.... nothing happens FAST that is worth having... and the thief??? WHO says that he got away???? Once again, ppl. not willing to WAIT for the proper way to do things, and acting like spoiled kids.... I'll sell BOTH slaves.... but NOT on others terms, on the terms of GS and the Council.... end of story.....

penny{Kyo}~~~ *listening to Master Rollo with a solemn nod of agreement*

Kyoto~~~ So, if a girl gets "captured" in another site, are we going to do anything to get the girl back?

Rollo the Ax~~~ GS has always tried to allow slaves to visit other Gorean sites... better to allow it openly than to have them sneak off, use different names, and cause REAL trouble... and most have the good sense to play it right... And can anybody tell Me how many times a GS slave has asked to be sold to * their one true Master * and NOT been done so???? NEVER!!!!! But it doesn't happen over night, it takes time to be done right.... and I'll be DAMNED if others are going to dictate to ME or the GS Council what THEY think is quick enough !!!!!! Again, end of fucking story ........

penny{Kyo}~~~ *thinking a moment*
If a slave is the property of the tavern and has been stolen, isn't it the duty of the tavern to amass a raiding party to retrieve the property and have things go through the proper channels? Or is penny being overly idealistic in her roleplay expectations?

penny{Kyo}~~~ *grinning as she hears Master Rollo call the subject closed, cursing her slow typing and cheerfully awaiting the next topic*

Lucient~~~ My girls and the ones I train know my rules about travel....GS is one of the sites I suggest traveling too actually.

Phen~~~ penny, you are being overly realistic *L*...Though I too would love to see it, but the Men then hurt the neutrality policy of GS...

Kayla~~~ If the roleplay is done without honor... as the capture of sevda and calia... we just ignore it as if it didn't happen...

Rollo the Ax~~~ No, this topic is not closed, just the idea that others will dictate to the GS Council...and if this case is not a set up, then so be it, but it HAS happened just that way in the past MANY times... so the innocent get tarred with the same brush...

Asellus~~~ A slave wouldn't be obligated to roleplay in return to the one "capturing" her if she really understood the rules here regarding captures and whatnot. she could beg to leave.

Asellus~~~ The girl is free to hit that "leave" button in such a situation, I would hope....

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~ponders Mistress Asellus' words, not sure she agrees, but thinks more on it...if it happened her shirin, what if???~*~

galah{RA}~~~ **this one remains quiet as she remembers back long ago at the one and only time she ended up at the post and whipped was over a situation like this**

penny{Kyo}~~~ penny has been captured at another site once before, but she was wandering a pier in Port Kar and was attacked from the air... the entire thing happened in good fun, and was a lesson to penny to be accompanied when strolling the dangerous city streets... Master played out a tarn raid, with battle schematics of NPC's, and retrieved penny the same morning, no worse for the wear... neither action was done maliciously, and was an opportunity to play out a bit of Gorean life, for any slave unaccompanied, be she collared or not, is fair game... the issue of contriving a capture to escape a situation with one's Master is an entirely different subject...

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Exactly, Asellus. Why sit there and play along, when it is not going to be honoured anyway?

Rollo the Ax~~~ Folks, the Council can't MAKE ppl. stay here if they don't want to be here... slave or Free alike... and I wouldn't want to try.... if a slave finds a new place they like better, then have the new Master come and buy her... that is the right and honorable way to do it.... Had Sabre not cleared up the capture thing with sevda, I would have gone and done so in his place... and if calia wants sold to the thief, let him come and buy her also... NO problem... but games and tricks are for children and fun, NOT role play lives.... there are RIGHT ways, and WRONG ways... simple as that.....

Asellus~~~ I was vague. I meant if the situation was "planned" as penny says. But still....I'd be skeptical for something to go "too far"....and then to imagine shamelessly crawling back to GS for help. Who is to say the Masters would take pity on a poor slave? I don't know....

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Well said, Rollo...I could not agree more...

penny{Kyo}~~~ (NPC stands for Non Player Characters, used in roleplay games to enhance the story line, but are just made up fillers with no one behind them acting them out)

Phen~~~ I agree, Rollo, and who is to say if it is done the right way--say when purchasing a girl--the Master cannot ask if after the purchase a RP session of capture or to steal the girl can be arranged? *smiles*

Rollo~~~ Again folks, what matters in life... RT or VT, is how WE conduct OUR lives... Stand up and take responsibility for your OWN actions..... Those that sneak, or lie, or use false names, or no names at all...??? Are below contempt... unworthy of even consideration.... they are children PLAYING at being grown ups....

Mandi~~~ ~~listening to Phen and penny, appreciating T/their roleplay creativity~~

Asellus~~~ I don't know, Phen, I would imagine, unless every Gorean in the tavern was informed, people would still demand explanations and the rumour mill would begin again. *dubious grin*

shirin{SholGar}~~~ shirin found herself in a situation that was entirely *unplanned* yet many thought she and the Master worked it out...needless to say shirin was miserable in another home and the Master left Gor, shirin was turned over to the tavern and ~smiles to Him~ thank goodness Master Rollo heard of it and came and bought shirin back
aye, shirin could have run and returned to GS or changed her name, but she stayed true to herself and what she believes gor to be and stayed and let the roleplay *play* itself out...she learned *a lot* from the month away from the home she loves

penny{Kyo}~~~ *nodding in agreement with Master Rollo*
Quite true... act honorably in all one does, and there is little room for complaint. To stir up drama unnecessarily is to show one's insecurity in their own lives, and by feeding the behavior of those who act immaturely, they are further encouraged.

Asellus~~~ Thank you for the insight, shirin.
And that is a good idea, Mandi.
*looking up to nod at the girl and the Lady, before burying Herself in Her notes again*

Phen~~~ There is that too, Asellus, but it would only take one Captain or Advisor to be around at the time...Though it was only a consideration...

Kayla~~~ ~smiling at shirin with a nod~ aye a bad time for many dear....

Rollo the Ax~~~ Folks, I have an RT matter that I MUST deal with... CD, if you will take over and finish the forum for Me??? I will leave... Be well, all...

Asellus~~~ Well, I don't see Me getting up in arms even if the "capture" was announced on the Auxiliary Board. *turning and regarding Mandi and Phen* I'm even wondering if the act would lose its effect if everyone knew. Would People outside of the capture make an effort to roleplay around the act of the capture after the "purchase"? *thinking aloud*

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Agreeing with Asellus* My thoughts exactly

Mandi~~~ ::chuckles at the beautiful Musician's comment:: I think that a post on the Aux Board to the effect that there is no serious grudge, but a story line going on, and inviting others to roleplay it out well, without r/t rancour behind it would be sufficient.


Creating a story line (Roleplay) using the Auxilliary Board

Phen~~~ Not sure Asellus, hard to say, but there are times when I would love to roleplay a situation openly and see what happens...Maybe that is a thing we can discuss in the future...

penny{Kyo}~~~ Roleplaying a variety of scenarios that aren't sex or serve based is what makes being online any fun... as long as all participants are on the same page as far as story line and cooperation, it can be a lot of fun...

Asellus~~~ *Gazing about the tavern at the numbers present tonight*
But you can see there is little comment about it now, so imagine, Mandi....I honestly am not sure how everyone takes to the idea. And not many even use the Auxiliary Board.
Good future topic, Phen. *nodding in agreement* I think everyone is getting tired. *giggling*

Mandi~~~ well said, Phen and penny. I'm game.

Asellus~~~ Of course, and I agree, penny, but you need willing participants who want to go beyond getting their own personal slave and then everything else plateaus after that. Such causes stagnation, in My opinion. *sighs*

shirin{SholGar}~~~ count shirin in, she *loves* to roleplay ~wiggles~ that's why she's a slave...it just leaked over into rt ~shrugs and giggles~

penny{Kyo}~~~ smiling cheerfully as the forum draws to a close*
penny thanks all for the opportunity to voice uncensored opinions, and is grateful for the lively dialogue from all...

Mandi~~~ I have seen some amazing things happen in here when roleplay "clicks," Asellus. You have been One involved in some of those things.
And I think there are a N/number in here W/who "rock."

penny{Kyo}~~~ *grinning to Mistress Asellus*
So think up a story line and involve someone else... roleplay can begin with a visit to another city by tarn, which involves at least one Master right there for transport... maybe there could be a FW shopping outing in Turia one day... pick out a site somewhere on the internet that has an attractive destination and go for it, then we might see reciprocity from other sites, where their patrons would visit the tavern here...

Phen~~~ I think this goes back to what galah to has been saying there are no drunken Masters or brawls around in the tavern these days Iím game for that even if I just stand at the back and watch the carryings on...

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Interesting, Phen...Maybe We can discuss that at the beginning of the next forum...Itís that time Folks...Thank Yíall for being here...tonight went very well...

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Rising and Grabbing His staff* Let Us go, My Lady.

Asellus~~~ *Nodding to Ceredigawn's words, She scoops up all the pieces of unedited rence notes and arises with the armload. Chuckling merrily, She joins Ceredigawn's side and exits from the tavern, nodding to those She considers Friends and some even Family*
Goreans, be well!!