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About Port Kar

Bolt Sarakai~~~ I will go ahead and start the forum today...
Ok normal rules apply, lets keep the chatter to a minimum and in whispers preferably, no need to beg entrance or leaving kajirae... And no serving in the forum!
Ok, someone pm me with a topic ~L~

Lemuel~~~ ~settling back, listening for the first topic~

jacia{GS}~~~ *listening*

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~listening as Master Sarakai calls the forum to order~

Bolt Sarakai~~~ Ok you have two minutes to give me a topic or else I will create one ~LOL~

jacia{GS}~~~ *thinking They might not want Him to do that *giggling*

Bolt Sarakai~~~ Ok, no one has given me a topic so ~thinking~ Lets talk about Port Kar, and what you, our patrons think Port Kar is all about...
Forum starts NOW!

jacia{GS}~~~ *goes into deep thought*

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ First and foremost, Port Kar is a major shipping port.

Gornt~~~ ~listening to Lemuel~

Cernus~~~ also a great wine region

Cernus~~~ not to mention the great slave market

jacia{GS}~~~ the Home of every single Infidel on Gor? *grins*

inara{G}t~~~ *She listens to Master Sarakai, liking the feel of Masters fingers in her hair.*

Gornt~~~ and the best dancing girls on Gor

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding at Cernus' words~ Aye and the only city to be built by slaves.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ And one of the Most dangerous cities on Gor...Let us remember what this city is all about...

Gornt~~~ and the only without a Home Stone

Dak~~~ the only city, that allows a caste of outlaws !

Gornt~~~ well til scroll 6

jacia{GS}~~~ and the BEST Taverns! *S*

Dak~~~ ah, but Bosk did give it a Home Stone

Bolt Sarakai~~~ Port Kar has no Home Stone, as yet, and so it is full of people who have been outcast or don't fit into any of the other city states. It is a home of pirates, thieves and cut throats. It is the only city on Gor to be built by slaves. Port Kar is synonym with cruelty and piracy. ~L~ It is our home!

Gornt~~~ that was after Our period here as I understand it

galah{RA}~~~ and it's a wet place, canals everywhere, wind through the city...hard to leave Port Kar unless you have a big boat heheheee

Cernus~~~ It seems like the Early days of the American west on Earth

Gornt~~~ nice place to visit, and I am glad I did
sorta like Atlantic City with swords

Lemuel~~~ ~smiles at the Captain's words~ Aye and it is well know for it's dancing slaves and the weapon particualr to the city, the whip knife.

jacia{GS}~~~ *thinking maybe Infidel was the wrong word hehe scracthing her head*

Mandi~~~ This Port Kar, however, is set before Bosk gave Port Kar a Home Stone.

Bolt Sarakai~~~ Lets get one one thing clear, there is no Caste of Outcasts ~L~ Port Kar in fact welcomes outcasts, the only caste Port Kar has that no where else has, is a Caste of Thieves. Gorean Shores is set in the period before the fleet battle between Cos, Tyros and our Home, so as yet, Bosk has not yet found the Home Stone.

Asellus~~~ *Nodding, having met one such Thief this afternoon in the tavern*

Dak~~~ oh, We don't go by the books??

jacia{GS}~~~ B.B. ----- Before Bosk hehehe

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ No Dak...that is not what Bolt is saying...

Gornt~~~ ~chuckling~
Bosk may still be in Cambridge, or was it Oxford?

Bolt Sarakai~~~ Dak, out-casts, are exactly that, cast of of caste, it is the ultimate in dishonour. And basically there is only one place that will take them, the jewel of gleaming thassa, Port Kar. ~S~

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~softly offering~.. one don't feel that what's being said is that we're not to go by the books.. yet.. on the homepage.. about
it does state:

Gorean Shores exists in the period of time after the uprising of the Ubars in Port Kar, as described in Book 6, but prior to the great sea battle of 25 Se'Kara and the discovery of the Homestone of Port Kar by Tarl Cabot. Thus, there is no Homestone in Gorean Shores.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Smiling to jas* Thank you jas...

Dak~~~ oh., stuck in a time warp, those that read, disregard that part !

Rollo the Ax~~~ Folks, yes, GS is set in Port Kar, which in the books was the roughest most unruly major city on Gor... the home of any number of outcasts, rogues, pirates, and generally shifty sorts from everywhere on the planet.... But the GS of on-line still expects a degree of honor and * following the laws *..... On-line can NEVER always be the exact same as the books.....

Cernus~~~ also one must remember, there be no home stone there, no pledge and no need to defend what is not theirs

Dak~~~ interesting thought, Cernus

Ruilan's tart~~~ mmmm there is a home stone for Port Kar Master Cernus...there wasn't for most of it's existance but there is now (per the books).

Cernus~~~ and ...smiles looking at aandra..............these be our slaves

Gornt~~~ GS picked a time before Bosk had given Port Kar its Homestone, so We could be more ner'do wells

Bolt Sarakai~~~ ~Nods to the words of Rollo~
And in context men still pledged to their Captains, so there was and is a certain dgree of honour and following of codes within the city.

aandra{Cernus}~~~ Aye master...*amber eyes melting with love* and a slave could not be more grateful and proud to be Yours!!!....*leans in closer*

Ruilan's tart~~~ mischief had no idea that was so Master Gornt, thank You for the information *smiling*

Cernus~~~ I see no semblence between Port Kar and GS

Gornt~~~ what makes One say that Cernus?

Dak~~~ well put Cernus

Cernus~~~ Well My thoughts of course......but I just feel there is more order here at GS.........and I like to think of Us as brothers ...who could rely on each other if a threat were to come....or am I to much of ROMANTIST ...LOL??


Paga Taverns and Free Women

Bolt Sarakai~~~ So lets get to paga taverns in Port Kar, what makes a paga tavern, and in particular, what makes GS a paga tavern?

Kyoto~~~ Well, a paga tavern sells paga...
*stating the most obvious thing first*

Gornt~~~ ~nodding to inara, whispering~
one will be a pleasure slave not a paga slut

Gornt~~~ and has mucisians and dancing girls

inara{G}t~~~ *smiles to Master* Whatever Master wishes.........though might this one ask what exactly is the difference. *hoping she doesn't offend anyone.*

Bolt Sarakai~~~ Exactly. Paga taverns are an establishment that sells paga and the services of the kajirae that work there...One can usually buy a paga and a girl for a copper piece. And as already has been stated, Port Kar has the reputation of the finest dancing and furring kajirae ~LOL~ This is because of the discipline imposed by some of the strictest masters upon gor.

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~listening to what's being discussed~

galah{RA}~~~ this one thinks a Port Kar paga tavern would be much more rowdy than GS is....wayyyyy to many manners in GS to be thieves, scoundrels and such

jacia{GS}~~~ *smiles as she listens..totally entranced by Master Sarakai's voice*

Dak~~~ and it makes little mention, of Free Women, is that correct?

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ I think that has something to do with Rollo and that Big Ass Axe He carries...not too many thieves and scoundrel would like to meet that..

Emerald Forest~~~ *but I think if We were just as rowdy as in the scrolls galah We would scare away too many people LOL*

aandra{Cernus}~~~ *unable to help it, a giggle escapes a girl's lips hear Master Durst speak of Master Rollo and His ax*

jacia{GS}~~~ *LMAO* Master Ceredigawn!

Dak~~~ I do not find that in Rollo. at all !

Bolt Sarakai~~~ Yes I understand that galah, when Bosk is in the paga tavern drowning his miseries in book 6 the place was ALIVE! Surbus was in with his crew and they were running amok...We all know that the fight that ensued between Bosk and Surbus cost Surbus his life and gained Bosk a seat on the Council of Captains...Yet here in GS we also have FW allowed to enter and we have to interact with RT.

Ruilan's tart~~~ ~not sure if she's allowed to speak, whispering softly~
a Free Woman would never be in a tavern in Port Kar, unless she was looking for a collar...(per the books) but as Master Ax so wonderfully said, online can't be exactly like the books.

galah{RA}~~~ this one remembers wayyyyy back in her early days on gor, before gs, when it was common in a different PK tavern to play kajira toss, this one didn't much like the game heheheheheee but it certainly gave a more interactive role playing aspect!

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ That is true Dak...but like Rollo said...It is very hard to follow the Books exactly..

Markos~~~ listening to the topic

Dak~~~ true, but, it could have greater expectations, than an Earthen tavern, *grins*

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~turning attention to the Captain's voice~*~

Rollo the Ax~~~ We have TRIED to make GS a place that is an exceptable * blend * of both the Port Kar of the books, and an on-line chat room, that welcomes EVERYBODY.... true, you would most likely never see a FW in a paga tavern... especially in Port Kar... but then there must be * trade offs * to keep things running .....

Asellus~~~ *Clearing Her throat*
Please, for the sake of the one scribing the notes, can those wishing to speak outside of the topic keep it in whispers? It makes it difficult to follow the conversation at hand.

Bolt Sarakai~~~ As to FW, in the books they wouldnt go to well over half the places in online Gor ~LOL~ But this is online Gor and they will be allowed to come on, but in doing so, their behaviour will and has been severly restricted.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Nodding at Rollo's words* Aye How else could We grow as a family...Bolt and Phen seem to be doing there part...

Dak~~~ it seems, trading off, a paga tavern, of late

Dak~~~ to Me. of late, they are acting as Masters

Gornt~~~ ~looking at Dak~
and One means by that?

Bolt Sarakai~~~ ~LOL slapping my thigh~
Cheeky bastard!
So Dak, what is your concern?

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ What do You mean by that Dak?

Ruilan's tart~~~~watching quietly~

Kyoto~~~ Perhaps a threat of some sort would be fun... get the blood of the rarius pumping!

Markos~~~ aye, nodding at the words being spoken, and a paga tavern in Port Kar would certainly not have Free Women as advisors *LOL*

Dak~~~ since when does a Mistress grant entry to a slave, with a Master present ?

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Chuckling at Kyoto* What do you have in Mind?

aandra{Cernus}~~~ *listens, watches.....*

Gornt~~~ When the Mistress is paying attention and the Master isn't

Emerald Forest~~~ *it all comes down to how You roleplay while in the tavern,if You are rowdy and slamming Your fist on the table and calling out for a drink or food then that is what this place is all about,but if You just sit there and don't do nothing then You make it look like a normal room*

Dak~~~ I can see a Mistress as an advisor , as a liason for Free Women problems, but nothing More !

Lemuel~~~ According to the GS protocols, ANY Free may grant entry to a slave.

Asellus~~~ *She chuckles at Gornt's words*

inara{G}t~~~ *bites her lips, trying not to grin at Masters words.*

Rollo~~~ The opposite of order is chaos... and who would continue to come to a place that was run, or should I say NOT run, with rules and honor ????? I am the first to admit that YES, maybe GS is NOT an exact replica of a true Gorean paga tavern... but it sure as HELL is as good an example of one that has survived on-line Gor for any amount of time...

Gornt~~~ Well Dak, as A pledged patron of GS there is the door

Gornt~~~ ~slamming My fist against My chest in support of Rollo~

calia{GS}~~~ *~biting back spilling laughter~* as her eyes dance, smiling to Master Gornt....

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding at the Senior Captain's words~

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Nodding with Rollo and Gornt.* Aye....Took the words out of My mouth Gornt..

Cernus~~~ Aye Rollo well said

jacia{GS}~~~ agrees 110% with Master Rollo

Bolt Sarakai~~~ Any free can grant entrance to a slave, that is a given in this room. And yes in the books, FW in Port Kar, would not be Advisors to the Council of Captains, perhaps in ones own household. But then, we have to make allowances for the continuation of the site. But always a free woman is only free because we men allow her to be.

Dak~~~ aye Senior Captain, but as you have not been here much of late, You May not agree with all that has transpired !

Gornt~~~ ~looking to Mine and then calia~

Kyoto~~~ *Looking at CD with a thoughtful expression*
Well, we know that no one would ever raid us... and I know that we can't raid another Gorean site... it's a puzzling quandary... a "catch 22" almost... I guess we do as SG suggested and has done and raid a non Gorean site... but where is the danger in that I ask?

aandra{Cernus}~~~ *grins at Masters Gornt and Rollo...*

Markos~~~ this is a forum, are not A/any allowed to speak freely on the topic, looking to Gornt

Gornt~~~ ~nodding to CD~

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~eyes sparkling with happiness at hearing Master Rollo's words, nodding softly as she completely agrees~*~

Gornt~~~ maybe if it was a biker site

galah{RA}~~~ but can't GS be more rowdy and still uphold the rules and honor? GS needs more of an atmosphere as to not be mistaken as a normal chat room? only a girls thoughts

Dak~~~ then, give it over to the Free Women to run, as , they seem to be lately !

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Sg and I have done that on several occasions...Your right there is no fun in it really...But We have brought a few sluts back with Us...
Why is it that We do not raid?

Bolt Sarakai~~~ GS is coming up for its fourth anniversary later this year, so it is a testomony to what we have in place here.

Kyoto~~~ *looking to Gornt, grinning*
A biker site?
You made penny laugh with that one.

Cernus~~~ I have a problem with the FW staying free because We men allow it...but shall keep it to myself...for it is a sensitive matter

Gornt~~~ Markos, it is Forum night but I am tired of the Builder's constant criticism of the FW, They add a measure of class to GS, and since We as Masters allow it, then He who is not even a pledged patron anymore should learn to accept it

Rollo the Ax~~~ And so any FW Advisor is and will always be in GS..... an Advisor and NEVER a full Captain..... Look at the title .... ADVISOR.... one that gives council or advice.... a level head, and quick wit.... ANYBODY that doesn't listen to another person with a valid and reasonable point of veiw limits their knowledge, and so limits their ability..... I for one will ALWAYS accept GOOD advice or knowledge from ANY other person.... be they Male, Female, Free or slave..... because in the end, it how * I * ( or the Council ) use such input...

from the policies and decisions page:

Sept 30, 1999 Item 3) Free Women of Gorean Shores may serve as Advisors to the Council of Captains, in accordance with the prior rules established for the admission of Advisors to the Council. Free Women who serve as Advisors serve at the will of the Council. While Free Women may hold positions as Advisors, they are not eligible for the rank of Captain.

Ruilan's tart~~~ Master Sarakai (and yes, mm knows she's not a member here) but mm looks in on GS everyday (as she has friends here) and as it may be looking toward it's 4th anniversary, You must admit, it is mostly empty at times...perhaps something does need to change a bit (just an idea).

Kyoto~~~ It's in the original rules of GS, set up with the founding that GS is not allowed to raid other Gorean sites.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Dak...You show more concern now then when You were a Patron. I think this is something you are personally having problem with...Does anyone agree with Dak?

Gornt~~~ I have been on many sites ins search of a place that I felt comfortable with to explore Gor in My way. GS is that place and and will defend it against any that want to make it into something it hasn't been before

Dak~~~ agreed galah. but can ya have that with lofty Free Women speaking their piece !

galah{RA}~~~ this one thinks that the agrreement not to have raids between other gor sites is cause each one here takes their character seriously...and during a raid, one might get killed, then what are they to do, leave online gor, or come back with a new name and be labeled a gamer?

jacia{GS}~~~ agreed galah :)

kira{MKS}~~~ ~sitting up from Master's lap, a warm smile going to all the FW in the room~ kira enjoys the FW point of view, their good sense and their sense of humor. They bring a warmth to the Tavern that is not available in other places.

Emerald Forest~~~ *it all depends on the time zones around the world mischief as when people are in here,I come in sometimes and there is no one around but other times I come in and there is heaps in here*

Markos~~~ looking to Gornt, but during a forum A/all are allowed to give their point of view on a topic, Free and slave alike and none should be asked to leave just because they have an unpopular point of view on the matter, I agree totally, FW add a persona to the place, but still ..................

Mandi~~~ ~~listening seriously to the former first girl~~ Aye, and I suppose war games without that adrenaline rush of the possibility of online death would be pretty pale by comparison to real raids.

Gornt~~~ there are too many sites run by anal cretins that do not realize this is supposed to be fun fun

Asellus~~~ Free Women could stand to use reminders of their places and I agree with that. "Comfort" should not be a word in FW's vocabulary, in My opinion.

Ruilan's tart~~~ Master Forest, mm looks in at least 2-3 times a day but perhaps she is stil missing people..*soft smiles*

jacia{GS}~~~ *smiles @ kira*

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Agreeing with His Woman....Aye Asellus...Mouthy Women should be put in their place...

Kyoto~~~ Well, galah, there can be formal raiding rules established which would limit or prohibit killing of characters... also, agreements between sites so that both sides know, what comes around, goes around.

Gornt~~~ ~chuckling ~
so watch it inara. ~chuckling at My silent girl~

Cernus~~~ then how can a Free Woman be Free,if she must be concerned with Her comfort and constanly be walking on egg shells for fear of offending a fello Free because He ..lol is a He

Gornt~~~ that is freedom on Gor Cernus
it is the same for Men

Bolt Sarakai~~~ That is true Asellus, A FW should never forget her place...Get too big for her boots/veils so to speak ~LOL~

Emerald Forest~~~ *I don't think it would work like that Kyoto as We would raid Them and take Their woman and then They would raid Us and take them back LOL*

Ruilan's tart~~~ ~listening to Master Cernus~ mmmm isn't that the reality of a Gorean FW life on gor??

jacia{GS}~~~ jaci knows several Gorean sites that have established raiding rules put 2gether by the leaders of all the rooms within that particular site and that is what they go by when raiding each other...but one can see how that can be a problem here considering we don't have any "sister" Gorean rooms or sections here

Asellus~~~ Because either way, slave or Free Woman, she is still a Woman and will never be equal to a Man, Cernus.

Gornt~~~ steel is the only thing that preserves a Man's freedom

Cernus~~~ aye that it is Gornt ..............smiles

Dak~~~ true Cernus, but why should a FM, stand by , and watch FW's in Gor erode what it is alll about ?

galah{RA}~~~ a raid would not be very realistic if no one EVER got killed? it was discussed once upon a time, long ago, about slaves being stolen and taken to another site, and then a slave from that site would get stolen too, but all this would have to be pre-arranged or again, its only going to cause big problems between sites

Kyoto~~~ Mandi, a person in a spar doesn't die, but there is still drama... a FW could be captured by raiders, her veils threatened until someone goes to ransom her back

Rollo the Ax~~~ Stepping back from My position as Senior captain, and trying to speak as just a plain OLD on-line chatter or whatever you want to call it.... * Look, have Y'all ever stopped to think of just how HARD it is to try and keep a place....ANY place, like GS running ????? EVERY swinging dick thinks that HIS idea of * how things SHOULD be run * is the right way.... Raid, or don't, FW or no FW, slaves restricted or NOT, speed fights or 3,5,7 post fights...the list goes ON and ON..... NO government in the history of the world has EVER been able to keep EVERYBODY happy... so how can the council of Captain ?????

Mandi~~~ I just find it hard to believe that, as there are only four Free Women at GS, that We are responsible for making online Gor at GS less than what Some expect. We certainly have not turned the Tavern into a fern bar.

Gornt~~~ ~laughing at Mandi~

Cernus~~~ Or Kyoto she be kol~ard

inara{G}t~~~ *grins at Master.*

Bolt Sarakai~~~ If in her own home, and follows the rules prescribed for the FW of that home, then she has nothing to fear Cernus. it is when she steps out of line then a problem can arise.
Now, if any person has a problem with a FW and believe they have stepped out of line, then email the Council of Captains with a c&p of the incident and we shall look at it.

Asellus~~~ *Nodding appreciatively at Rollo's words and then turning to smile encouragingly to Her Friend Mandi*

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding at Rollo's words~ Aye, nor should it try to make everyone happy.

calia{GS}~~~ *~her eyes dazzle,smiling to Mischevious Mistress Mandi,with a wink~*

inara{G}t~~~ *smiles hearing Master Rollo*

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Listening to the Captain then speaking* Well We do what We feel is best for the tavern. Because that is what We are here to do, to keep things running smoothly and manage things the best way We know how...If Someone doesn't like it..*pointing at the door* Find somewhere else, better yet, get your own tavern...Then you will be happy with the way things are run there.

Ruilan's tart~~~ ~chuckling to the Mistress and knowing that FW are the downfall of the entire Gorean Society...(look at book 25 with Telena~ *impishly playful grin*

Markos~~~ I have great respect for the FW who come in here and choose to be Free instead of slave, tho I have heard by some they are just lazy so they don't have to do all the posting involved *LOL* but I did not say that, only repeating what I heard *L*

Dak~~~ I understand that , Senior Captain,but it seems some unwritten rules, are being written !

daaria{GS}~~~ *listening to all the comments being made..smiling softly*

Kyoto~~~ *Grinning at Rollo*
Well, debate is the spice of my life, Captain... I think as a general rule, we are happy here... but the grass is always greener, so we like to talk about other possibilities... it's in a forum like this that possibilities can be explored... and if we, as a body, like an idea, we present it to the council for a vote.... then it's up to you guys.

Dak~~~ strong words, CD, but look what is happening in GS ?

Bolt Sarakai~~~ As for raiding other sites, it would take a lot of organising and quite of time, I know, I tried an inter rading competition going a long time ago, it did nt come off. But if we could manage to have a regular tournament of swords between sites then that might satisfy our blood lust ~L~

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ What is happening in GS Dak? Do you really think the FW are taking over? I mean really...Maybe it's just you Dak...I have yet to hear anyone else say that they think FW are taking over GS.

jacia{GS}~~~ ~sighs shaking her firey tresses~

Rollo the Ax~~~ Okay, let me try to either clear up or put to rest a part of this FW debate..... GS allows FW to come in and take part.... they enjoy a certain level of freedom and/or protection while in GS.... as long as they behave within certain limits.... these limits have been set by the COUNCIL.... Not each Tom, Dick, and Harry that THINKS He knows what is right or wrong..... If a man has trouble with a FW, and thinks that she is over-stepping her bounds, he can either tactfully remind her of her palce, or he can contact the council.... BUT they had better be good reason to try and collar a FW in good standing in GS, or the Council will step in..... but this also does NOT give FW the right to try and * take over *.... so they still walk a thin line .... one step to either side, and they may well find steel around their pretty little necks.....

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Listening to Bolt throwing His 2 tarsks in* Well We have a bunch of Warriors, do We not, How sparring amongst them...I have even dabbled in sparring a bit Myself and enjoyed it..

Dak~~~ maybe, it's becuz, that they fear the rath of protected FW's CD ?

daaria{GS}~~~ Master Dak, daaria has hear so many times that Gor is a Man's world...*smiling softly* and as long as Gor remains that way, whatever happens to GS, or any other site, is only what the Men of that site allow to happen...*nods, hoping her words came out clearly..*

Gornt~~~ ~listening~

Mandi~~~ ~~not sure I quite believe My ears~~

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ I somehow doubt that Dak....
*Agreeing with Rollo* Well Said Bro..

Bolt Sarakai~~~ ~Slapping my left shoulder in applause of the Senior Captain's words~
Well spoken Rollo.

Dak~~~ that's well and good Rollo , what about a FW, that alllows a male slave, to kneel in front of them, with wide spread thighs, showing their genitals?

Gornt~~~ Once again agreeing with Rollo

pudding{GS}~~~ *listens quietly*

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding at the talk of sparring~ Aye, I too would participate on occasion if there where regularly held matches.

Cernus~~~ We still discusiing the FWs???? mon dieu

Markos~~~ *LOL* listening to Rollos's words and agreeing totally,

jacia{GS}~~~ *sighs wanting to speak up but not *

Rogan~~~ *Listens*

Gornt~~~ ~chuckling at Cernus' comment~

jacia{GS}~~~ agrees with Master Rollo

Dak~~~ cross a FW, and find out CD, Your Lady excepted

daaria{GS}~~~ Master Dak, a male slave serving a FW, with wide spread thighs means nothing, as long as the FW keeps Her composure, and doesn't react in such a way that would be deemed unbecoming of a FW...

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Like I said before....Dak...this is obviously a personal problem..You are speaking of One FW and not All, so quit with the bosk dung and e-mail the Council your concerns.

Markos~~~ Listening to Dak, perhaps some builders are afraid of the wrath of Free Women, but not a warrior, *LOL* if they are afraid of a FW's wrath then perhaps they should be a thrall *LMAO*

Gornt~~~ here here CD

Rollo the Ax~~~ Kyoto, that is EXACTLY the way it should be... these forums are for the OPEN discussion of ideas...Free and slave alike.... and yes, very often people only see their own little veiw or idea of many topics and such.... The general rule I try to live by is * If it AIN'T broke, DON'T fix it, but if it is broke, I can't begin to fix it unless I KNOW it is broken *..... So TELL the Council if Y'all think something is screwed up, we may or we may NOT change it, but at least y'all can say that you TRIED !!!!!!! instead of just grumbling and mumbling.... that goes for EVERYBODY !!!!!!!!

jacia{GS}~~~ *grins at Master CD*

kira{MKS}~~~ ~giggling softly at the mental picture of her Master as a thrall....... NOT!!!~

calia{GS}~~~ the wench leans into jacia, a headful of dark curls on her thighs...as calia listens....~ curling into her....

Asellus~~~ *Smiling supportively of Ceredigawn's and of Rollo's words*

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding at the Senior Captain's words~ Aye, there are methods to resolve problems, if they haven't been tried then there's no reason to complain.

jacia{GS}~~~ *timidly* may one speak please..even tho it might mean a punishmnent please?

Dak~~~ well, I'm airing a lot, I think most don't want to touch !

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Do so jaci

Asellus~~~ *Glancing at jacia with curiousity*

Markos~~~ pinching kira's sweet sexy ass hard, don't even imagine it *LOL*

daaria{GS}~~~ *listening to Master Rollo's words, nodding in agreement*

Kyoto~~~ It's an open forum, jacia, I don't see why you can't

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ The problem is Dak that you are using something that happened to You,and only You...E-mail the council, I know exactly what you are speaking of, and this is NOT the time to discuss it...

aandra{Cernus}~~~ *smiling encouragement at jac, whispering tis a forum sis!!!

Bolt Sarakai~~~ Ok, well I think that sums up the isssue of GS the paga tavern ~LOL~ And the issue of FW has been discussed, you know now what to do if you have a problem.

jacia{GS}~~~ ***looking about to all the Free in the Tavern who granted her permission she softly speaks*
Thank you Masters and Mistresses...turning to Master Dak

Markos~~~ looking to Capt.CD, but if what He is discussing in the realm of the topic why not discuss it here and now *LOL*

jacia{GS}~~~ this is one of the reasons a girl doesn't come Home very often.....jaci agrees TOTALLY with Master Durst...if Master Dak you have such this huge problem with a CERTAIN FW maybe You should try to take it up with said FW...but tis not fair to this esteemed Lady whomever she might be that You would speak so behind Her back..how would You feel Master then..if YOU were the one in question and being talked about...jaci knows what it is like to be talked about as she is sure many others have here as well behind the back and it hurts like hell...especially if they are nice to your face but would rather stab a damned dagger into your back in the middle of the night......one just gets tired of hearing some complain and complain and groan but most of them are NEVER willing to take any steps towards DOING something about it...and that is what is really sad...Online..we are Goreans..on RT we are Human beings from all different walx of life..different cultures..different beliefs....and yes A/all as well as You are entitled to Your thoughts feelings and opinions.....and if you find anything jaci is saying offensive she is sorry but this whole discussion has been frustrating her immensely as as you as W/we talked about the other night, jaci has had a lil or no fuse left in her...she just wants to relax...and enjoy and cherish and love the precious time she has that she is honored to call F/friends...as one is sure A/all here are happy for...please...let it rest Master :(

Rollo the Ax~~~ I think that another point that many ppl forget when here..... Not every person will like or * get along * with every other person....in RT or here... hell, I try to be open minded, and yet I would have to admit that there are times I dislike or don't trust another person by just their looks..... but My point here is that we ALL need to try and raise above such actions..... give EVERY person a second, or third chance to * prove * themselves..... If the very first time I meet someone, and they make a mistake, does that brand them FOREVER ?????? Y'know what ???? I'll bet dollars to dog turds that EVERY person here has made such mistakes.... and so, doesn't the * other guy * deserve the same second chance we would ALL want for ourselves ?????? "" Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone...""

jacia{GS}~~~ *knowing she has said enough*
Master's of jaci's kolar...please 4give Your slithery one she apologizes for her outburst :(

Cernus~~~ hears the little slave jacia...and smiles

Ruilan's tart~~~ ~chuckling, trying to push her "dog turd" mistakes behind her

Gornt~~~ ~smiling and nodding at jaci~
well said girl

Dak~~~ Amen Captain Rollo !

daaria{GS}~~~ *grins big at Master Rollo's statement, eyes sparkling brightly*

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding at Rollo's word's~ Aye, sound advice.

jacia{GS}~~~ ~feels the warmth of Master Cernus' smile upon her she blushes softly..returning it fondly~
~whispering~ Thank You Master Gornt :)


slave trading among sites

galah{RA}~~~ this one thought some kind of slave trading among sites would be good, let the slaves have a feel of things elsewhere where it might not be as comfortable as their home, this was all talked about during a gorean forum and all thought it a good idea, but it never did happen, to much organizing to get it done

Ruilan's tart~~~ galah, we tried to work that out when mischief was FG of GC but the slave Master here in GS did not approve of the idea (it was cleared with GC if the idea intrestes the Captains).

jacia{GS}~~~ that is a good idea galah...gives the slaves a variety of experiences with different Gorean cultures and serving styles plus make new friends of her sisters and Free :)

galah{RA}~~~ ooohhh yea mischief, this one remembers, we was sooooo close but closeness only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades heheheheheheee it was and still is a good idea?

inara{G}t~~~ *hears galah and thinks that sounds interesting.*

Gornt~~~ what sounds interesting?

Dak~~~ it still counts, in love , galah, also ! *grins*

Ruilan's tart~~~ galah, mischief thinks it was, and she was hoping it would promote more traffic if people felt comfortable in both sites..(course that is just the opinon of a slave *smilin*

Kyoto~~~ I like that idea galah, mischief... and if a Master misses a certain slave, he can go to that site to visit her... thus expanding his experiences.

Ruilan's tart~~~ Master Kyoto, as there is no FG of GC any longer, i'd be happy to take the matter back to the "powers that be" in GC if the GS Captins would endorce the idea.. *soft smile*

Kyoto~~~ I'm not in a position to make that ruling, mischief... it's up to Rollo and the rest of the council to decide.

inara{G}t~~~ *smiles to Master.* The capturing of slaves from one site to another.

Ruilan's tart~~~ Master Kyoto, mischief understands..she is just volunteering to be the "sacrificial lamb" and bring the matter to GC if the Captains decide to give it a try ...*grin*

Gornt~~~ ahhhhhhh, one has experience there doesn't she

inara{G}t~~~ .................and the matches.

Ruilan's tart~~~ Master Ax, can then say galah and mm put before the Captains again the idea of the slaves traveling between GC and GS to say "cross train" or "familurize" themselves with each place???

Rollo the Ax~~~ mm, I, Myself, am not against such an idea or plan.... the major snag would be the same as last time, agreeing on the rules and logistics of putting it into action.... BOTH sides have to agree .... that is where the trouble comes in... but it can be brought to the Council again....

Ruilan's tart~~~ Master Ax, could perhpas mischief and jaz, get together and draw up some 'perspective" rules and present them to the council? if they can be agreed upon perhpas it can go forth some time in the near future?

Ruilan's tart~~~ galah, if you have time perhaps the three of us, could try drawing up rules/ideas toghether?

galah{RA}~~~ Master had to step away for a few ehns, he can't sit for extended periods of time....mischief, galah will make sure he gets the message/question

Ruilan's tart~~~ thanks galah, if you would just e-mail mischief or icq her, mm would be happy to help in anyway she can *smiling* (infact she would love it, it's been too long since the slut had something to do *grinnin*


online Gor becoming stagnant

galah{RA}~~~ don't you think that the flocks are leaving gor mischief? when gs is empty, this one looks in on GC and a couple other places to find them empty also....galah thinks there needs to be a pulling together by all to keep gor alive

Gornt~~~ well i am pleased to see the number in here this night galah, it speaks well of GS

Kyoto~~~ Remember all, it's summer in the States, people sre going to be travelling, hanging in pools, etc... not everyone wants to hang on-line.

Cernus~~~ Our forums are known around Gor...........from the Gorean chat,to the Gates of Ar

Ruilan's tart~~~ galah, mischief agrees with you completely...it went from being hopping in both places (actually several) to nearly dead...seems the only sites anymore that are REALLY thriving are the ones full of complete bullshit (much as m's hates to say that)...webmaze, alterrealm, those seem to do great..but then it is not a place where m's would like to be in gor...*soft sigh*

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding at Kyoto's words~ Aye, there are vacations and other r/t concerns that sometimes leave the Tavern empty.

Ruilan's tart~~~ Master Gornt, mm only sees the numbers in here THIS HIGH, when there IS a forum, not at all even close to this on a regular basis...(the previous statement is just m's personal observations *grin*)

daaria{GS}~~~ (( as far as where people are on Gor...this one thinks alot of Goreans are moving to the html chats, like Alter Realm, Chat Castle, Pairs Palace and such...but those are just the thought of a lil slave ))

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to mischief~ Aye, I've also noticed that forums do seem to draw more of a crowd.

Dak~~~ true Kyoto, but GS was very lively, this time last year

Ruilan's tart~~~ aye Master Lemuel, mm agrees on vacations and such, yet she can honestly say, in the six years she's been on gor, she's NEVER seen things as slow as they have been in the last 12 months...

penny{Kyo}~~~ *borrowing the keyboard from Master for just a second*
penny here... just wanted to comment briefly on the issue of the apparent lack of participation in Gor sites throughout the community... it seems to be a prevalent problem, with no resolution occurring... penny cannot pinpoint specifically what it is that is causing enthusiasm to drop off so drastically, but it has, and there needs to be some sort of surge of enthusiasm to bring life back into all sites... any interesting suggestions for accomplishing such a task?
*grininng and relinquishing the keyboard back to Master once again*

Asellus~~~ We can all liven the tavern up in various ways, but it must be done collectively, I think. We can't just enter and be stagnant...

galah{RA}~~~ well, galah will leave gor mischief before going to one of those sites....this one thinks they have there own books to follow instead of the John Norman ones hehehehehehehee

Ruilan's tart~~~ galah *giggling* mischief agrees WHOLE HEARTEDLY!!

aandra{Cernus}~~~ Aye sis, but tis not only Gor which be so very very slow, tis seems to be all chat sites?

Dak~~~ but is it seems GS, galah, is deviating more from the books all the time?

galah{RA}~~~ **hearing Mistress Asellus and penny, nodding in agreement** this one remembers gor being fun, although scary at times, it was exciting and fun....now there is just to much nit picking over every lil thing, and as said, its stagnant, everyone is afraid to do anything that they might offend someone....perhaps we need to have different days for different things, like one day a week for sparring, our one day a week for the forum, pick another day a week for slave games, this one is sure there are other ideas tooo?

Asellus~~~ I don't think there should be a set schedule for any of it, galah, though it would help those that do wish to be present for such activities. I think it's a matter of "just doing it". Instead of entering the tavern and requesting the same damn serve of kalana, request a dance, and I will play in accompaniment, or grab the arm of a brother and just SPAR! Rouse things up; get the blood pumping a little.

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to Lady Asellus~
Yes, a little spontanaity wouldn't hurt either.

Mandi~~~ ::chuckling:: Had to reread that last post Asellus. You are, of course, correct, Lady.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Looking at His Lady.* Aye...that is exactly what I had in Mind...

Asellus~~~ Perhaps some stay out of the tavern for fear of the stagnation. Of the same day-to-day activities. I believe it is okay to admit that. I, too, have become selective as to when I will enter and when I will not. It's petty, but it's true.
Come up with some general Gorean questions if all else fails and generate conversation in the tavern.

Ruilan's tart~~~ ~whispering softly to Master Lemuel~
People have to "gather" for there to be some spontanaity, tis very hard to be spontanious all alone (although mm keeps trying to surprise herself *chuckling*)

Asellus~~~ Why does general talk of Gor have to occur ONLY during the forums on Monday nights?

Mandi~~~ ~~listening to the comments about the Tavern being empty and remembering something Kayla the Advisor has suggested~~
get in the Tavern and see Who else wasn't coming in because it is empty.

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckling~ 'Tis true, mischief. But we can start by having scheduled events just to get ppl interested again and have the other nights be free to do as One pleases.

Dak~~~ I have Mandi !

kira{MKS}~~~ kira has learned that if she enters an empty Tavern, others do follow

Asellus~~~ Then draw those Goreans out of the woodwork, mischief! *chuckling, Her eyes bright and lively* If even I seem to be "in hiding" in the chat room, then I wouldn't discount someone PM-ing Me and saying "come on in" and I would hope no one else would either, unless the person is away in RT or something of the sort.

penny{Kyo}~~~ *taking her turn on the keyboard once again*
penny here... galah, penny agrees that perhaps having something that would be a draw to get people in at a specific time would be better than no activity at all... the book forums are one way, and just look at the numbers turnout for these forums... maybe beginning with a night of some sort of rowdy entertainment... perhaps "wet slave silk night"?
*wiggling her eyebrows, then handing the keyboard back to Master*

Ruilan's tart~~~ Master Lemuel *playful smile' could mm just request no slave dancing or slave poem nights? You don't have ANY idea how many times mm's seen sappy powms from slaves to their Masters...(it's almost sad *chuckling*)..

inara{G}t~~~ *Is good at talking to herself.*

Lemuel~~~ ~smiles to the Lady~ It doesn't have to Asellus, but more ppl show up if they know there will be a discussion.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ I think that can be good as well like the book forums that Marius has in the morning...

calia{GS}~~~ gentle smile to Mistress Asellus ~* thinking back to the visit earlier this day..when calia served Master Spirit, the Thief...~giggling quietly as her eyes flicker with nervousness..~* newness ,and sponteneous discussions of Gor are most exciting for slaves as well... kira, mm has learned that is not always true, but perhpas you are better looking then mischief and a better draw then she is *grinning*

galah{RA}~~~ well, any of these things could be done on other days tooo, could strike up a last ehn forum and discuss gorean things, could still strike up a spar between a couple Masters, and this one is sure even FW could be entertained by slave games, such a rolling ta grapes on the floor and telling the slaves to roll them back with their noses and no hands hehehehehehee but if its a once a week thing, then might be able to see what attracts ppl the most, we already know the forum attracts many

Bolt Sarakai~~~ It all comes down on how you roleplay your character in any given situation. There is a wealth of knowledge that can be brought into any conversation one has in here, we alll don't need to just get the first girl that comes along and put our dick in her ~LOL~ Take me for example, whom did I fur last? Ummm, jacia, thats it, and when was that, 9 months ago? How many spars have I had in the same period? ummm, lost count ~L~ How many different drinks, how many sul chillies, business tranactions, boasts? ~LOL~ Enrich your character and give it a life!

kira{MKS}~~~ ~grinning over at mm~ no sister, but perhaps kira just times it better?

calia{GS}~~~ looking down at her nudity , silken curves san silks..., then back to penny,beyond Master Kyoto...
~whispering~....what about just ~wet slaves~????

inara{G}t~~~ *giggles softly at penny*

Ruilan's tart~~~ kira, perhpas m's is just a bitch and no one wishes to be around her *chuckling*

Asellus~~~ *Nodding at Bolt* Appropriate roleplay and spontaneity is essential to keep things lively here, I believe.

Ruilan's tart~~~ at GC during "THE THING" Master Daemon was going to have a "name that girl" game..where girls came in wearing different names (JUST FOR THAT SPECIFIC TIME AND GAME) and the Master's had to guess who they were...

Lemuel~~~ ~listening to all the suggestions~ The only problem I see is that many want there to be activity, but few are willing to put forth their time to make it happen.

daaria{GS}~~~ daaria hasn't been in the tavern for a while now, as r/t has been very demanding of her, but even when she was coming in on a regular basis, as Mistress Asellus said, it was very stagnant, seemed like the same O/ones were in here all the time and the same serves being served....daaria would love to see more fun things happening, like perhaps vulo egg races amongst slaves, or a game of meat toss..oh hell, even doing chores is sometimes more fun than just sitting idle.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Nodding to Bolt* Well said..

Asellus~~~ It's up to each person to make something of his or her time on Gor. If the person relies on others to make it interesting, then I don't think the person has much room to complain. It's what every person does for Gor, individually, that lends to the greater atmospheres we all remember.

inara{G}t~~~ *smiles at Master* He did indeed, but for a moment.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Tried that mischief and No One showed...

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~raises her hand~*~ shirin wants to put forth the effort Master Lemuel

Ruilan's tart~~~ Master Durst, OH MAN You're kidding, that sounds like a damn fun game to mischief...*pouting* perhaps one more try???

Mandi~~~ Some of the best times I have seen in the Tavern have been when People do things from the heart rather than through rote learning. ~~thinking of dances celebrating occasions, the occasional quiet meal, the unexpected guests, lots of things~~ It can be encouraged, but not forced.

Gornt~~~ effort for?

Gornt~~~ yes this is a paga tavern and there are few dances performed

Mandi~~~ And the FW have a limited role, but it is unfair for Any to just plop in say a Tal and then sit and just expect to be entertained.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Smling as He sees a little excitement amongst the tavern*
Perhaps mm...I will keep it in My mind..

Asellus~~~ *Nodding vigorously at Mandi*

penny{Kyo}~~~ penny one more time... Master Lemuel, penny agrees, and confesses to not having put forth much time herself over past months, largely due to health and financial issues, but for another, when penny would be here, she was often alone for hours on end...
*yawn, snore, grin*
penny is trying to make a renewed effort to slip in when able, but there has to be a healthy balance between online time and time spent with one's family, as reality should always come first.

Ruilan's tart~~~ Master Durst, if girl can be of any help, she happily volunteers *smilin*

Dak~~~ true Lady Asellus, but so many want to criticize others idea, or peception of what the want from Gor. instead of letting them just live Gor for what they want from it

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to penny~ Aye, I understand that very well, lil' one. Especially since I've been rather busy r/t lately Myself. But it isn't right for some to complain about how *dead* it is and then not *do* something to make it better IMO.

shirin{SholGar}~~~ well said penny and it would be good to see you back more ~*~smiles to her~*~

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Well said Bro...*looking to Lem*

Asellus~~~ *Grinning spiritedly at Lemuel*

Gornt~~~ ~listening~

I am here quite often, last night it was just Dak and I for a half an hour and i finally gave up

galah{RA}~~~ well, this one thinks its bound to be slow around here for a couple months, as the weather in the USA is good and kids are out of school, rt does indeed come first....perhaps if we don't try to live here but at least find a couple days a week to drop in even if only for a few ehns

Dak~~~ lately, Mandi , the FW's have had plenty of time, so Much so, they try to run over the Masters !

inara{G}t~~~ This girl has had a very busy RTI of late, but she is here as often as possible.

Asellus~~~ *Emitting a heavy sigh*

Dak~~~ point well taken Gornt

pudding{GS}~~~ *sighs heavily*

Mandi~~~ If it is an issue for You, Dak, please take it to someone with authority. I said nothing to deserve this boskdung from You. Leave it be, please.
As a Man, Your options are greater than the Free Women, yet You persist in this inanity.
~~shrugs~~ Live and let live.

Ruilan's tart~~~ mischief thanks GS for it's hospitality...if she can be any assistance she would be happy to help..

penny{Kyo}~~~ *nodding to galah*
Exactly, which is what penny is trying to do... keep it in a balance. Though unfortunately, when penny is here tends to be at odd hours for those in the states, but perhaps the Aussie contingency could peek in at what are wee hours of the morning here...
*hopeful smiles*

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Dak...I have enough of the FW bashing for tongiht...e-mail the council...Why stir up shit?

Dak~~~ not bashing, just think , they should know there place !!

Dak~~~ and isn't this what the forum is for Captain?

Rollo the Ax~~~ Dak...if You have a specific grievance against a FW, then feel free to contact the Council.... But to continue to tar ALL FW with the same brush just ain't gonna fly....Okay ????

Gornt~~~ ~sighing~


Regular sparring nights

Bolt Sarakai~~~ Lets move to the other subject we were discussing, Regular Sparing!

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Aye Bolt....Regular sparring..I would be interested in sparring some more...

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding~ Regular sparring sounds good. In fact, maybe We could do some this Thursday?

Gornt~~~ Aye, provided Bolt eats no chilis before I spar with Him again

Cernus~~~ before I was here in GS,the site I was at,sparring was a regular occurence

Mandi~~~ Deidre and Some Others were in the other night and One was very interested in learning about sparring. Would these be for pledged Patrons only, or could Men visit, Lemuel?

inara{G}~~~ *have never seen sparing*

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ That would be good Lemuel...*nodding* perhaps if 2 Men are in the tavern, and doing nothing..Why not pick up your weapons, and go at it...

Bolt Sarakai~~~ Aye Ceredigawn...Regular sparing, it would be good to set aside a day or eveing, once a week to gather the lads together for a sparing contest, they may even, if we get good turnouts result in a competition of sorts. It would be a good incentive to come to GS if you were a warrior, even of another site.

inara{G}t~~~ *frowns.* This one missed Master sparing? *pouts*

Lemuel~~~ ~smiles to the Free Woman~ We've been opening up the Thursday forums to anyone lately in order to increase attendance and I've considered advertising them on other boards as well, so I'd say everyone is welcome to come and listen or watch.

Gornt~~~ Well for a change we outnumber everyone else tonight

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Agreeing with Bolt, A few Men came for the Sparring Tournament at the festival...The one in which I won...*chuckling*

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding~ O.K. - let's set this Thursday for sparring then.

Gornt~~~ ~smiling, opening My tunic to show the still red ridge of scar tissue from the tip of Bolt's blade~
I was blinded by His chili breath

inara{G}t~~~ *eyes go wide, reaching out to gently touch them with the tips of her fingers. Giggling just a little at that, but not happy about the wounds.*

aandra{Cernus}~~~ *eyes bright, a girl looks forward to watching the men spar...to see the handsome Masters flex their muscles...to watch Them at Their "art"....and to sneak peeks at Their bodies....grins*

Gornt~~~ nada, made a mess of the tunic though

inara{G}t~~~ *shakes head slowly.*

Bolt Sarakai~~~ Ok, thursday nights it is

Bolt Sarakai~~~ So what time is this sparing session going to happen on thursday night, is it the same time as this forum?

Lemeul~~~ ~looking to Bolt~ We were holding the Thursday forums and Ahn later than this one, nut We could start the same time and go an Ahn later as well.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Aye Bolt....Same time...

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ It was 8cst...but I can be here whenever...

Bolt Sarakai~~~ Well lets make it the same time as this forum, that way I know I can be here for a few hours at least ~G~ Seeing how you all will need some expert tutelage ~L~ Just as well I don't charge patrons of the tavern the gold tarn a day as I do others ~LOL~

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to The Captain~ Alright Bolt, We'll meet at the same time on Thursday then. 7:00PM-CST

Gornt~~~ Dak You are going to spar with Bolt?

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Here or FM room

Bolt Sarakai~~~ Ok, well that wraps up that topic I feel

Lemuel~~~ ~looking to CD~ Let's meet here and if We have enough We can split up into two rooms to keep things moving.

aandra{Cernus}~~~ *hoping the sparring shall be here and not behind closed doors so the slaves can watch.....grins*

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ I'll post the particulars for the Thursday night activities on the board so anyone that didn't make it will be able to read about it there.

Bolt Sarakai~~~ Ok the sparing session WILL be held in GS, that way it is open for all to see and may generate interest outside of our patrons.

Lemuel~~~ Shall I ask Men that want to participate to email the Council so We can set up individual matches or will We just play it by ear?

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ E-mail the council So that We can have an idea of how many ..and if more show up that is fine

Lemuel~~~ ~nods to CD~ O.K. - will do.

Bolt Sarakai~~~ Ok, lets just stick it up on the message board and play it by ear, or shortsword ~LOL~


Observation Collars----Reminder

Bolt Sarakai~~~ Just a quick point to add before the forum closes...Observation kolars... They do not exist in GS, new kajira get a training kolar.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ I think that new kajira that want to learn need a training ko'lar...Otherwise things may get to complicated and then they leave...I have seen that happen before.

Kyoto~~~ Ok, is this forum now over?

Ok, this forum is over
Thanks for everyones participation tonight, we have aired a few things hidden under the floor boards I feel. Normal rules now apply!

calia{GS}~~~ quietly calia's voice lifts as her eyes lower,repsectfully
thank You Master Sarakai for allowing calia to openly particpate in forum ...~* most informative...*she purrrrs*

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~sighs as it was a very noisy forum, her head so full of *stuff*~*~

aandra{Cernus}~~~ a girl thanks A/all for a wonderful forum....*smiling about the room*

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~trying to catch up on the scribe work.. hearing Master Sarakai call the forum to a close.. softly~
thank You Master Sarakai for moderating tonight's forum
~lil fingers moving swiftly over the piece of rence paper with the writing implement~

Asellus~~~ Thank You for moderating the forum, Bolt, and to jasma for taking the notes. *smiling at each*

kira{MKS}~~~ kira has learned much this evening, and wishes to thank All who were here ~smiling softly as she begins to gather Master's things~

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ Thanks for an interesting forum Captain.

Rollo the Ax~~~ Well folks, that seems to be about it for the forum tonight..... Thanks for all coming out, and we'll look forward to seeing everybody again next week...same time, same channel.....LOL...LOL... Be well, all....I and galah are out of here..... farewell for now......


one just wishes to apologize if these notes aren't in total order. Forum was a bit chaotic last night, and one knows it's no excuse, but it did make it a bit difficult to try to separate into topics.