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Technology rules/Ship Building The eleven kisses of a slave
Free Women and male slaves

Technology rules/Ship Building

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Alright A/all Let us begin...Remember the rules...try to keep all stuff not topic realted to whisper.
Other than that let Us begin. PM me topics, and are there any that rolled over from last week?

Gornt~~~ ~listening~

daaria{GS}~~~ *turning her attention to Master Ceredigawn Durst as the forum begins, listening intently..*

aandra{Cernus}~~~ *sits up straighter, listening*

Cernus~~~ waits and listens for the topic

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~whispering softly~
no Master Durst.. a girl don't see anything left over from last week..

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Alright then People...I need a topic...*chuckles* Any suggestions?

Lemuel~~~ ~leaning back in the chair to listen~

Gornt~~~ Technology rules

Gornt~~~ I am building or have commissioned to build a new type of ship

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Okay...Lets begin with that...Technology on Gor...Where should the line be drawn, before facing the blue flame.

daaria{GS}~~~ *looking up, smiling, listening as Master Gornt speaks*

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckling as I hear a topic that is near and dear to My Caste~

Gornt~~~ It is not going to have any new weapon technology, but it will be an advatage to Me in shipping and meeting schedules

Cernus~~~ looks at the builder and smiles...aye My friend I can understand

Gornt~~~ ~chuckling~
aye and that is a concern of Mine and the reason I asked none of the GS Builders to take the commission

Mandi~~~ ~~good topic~~

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Knowing what the blue flame can due to One, as that is the way He lost His parents.*
Well what is so special about this ship Gornt?

Gornt~~~ it is based on the design of the 19th century urthen clipper ships, longer and more seaworthy than the vessels we have now, and carrys much more sail to make her move like the wind through the Thassa

daaria{GS}~~~ *listening*

Gornt~~~ For pure sailing it is the greatest design ever built on Urth

Cernus~~~ aye Gornt,but did she not also having a ramming devise for battle??

daaria{GS}~~~ *nodding as she agrees with Master Gornt..*

Lemuel~~~ ~looking to Gornt~ No oars? What will You do if the ship is becalmed?

Gornt~~~ no, the bowsprit was for rigging not ramming

Cernus~~~ smiles ...sorry always thinking of the upper hand in battles

Gornt~~~ there is so much sail even the lightest breeze will make the ship keep way

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Agreeing with both Cernus, and Lem.* The ship does actually need both if You want to keep Your boat.* As for just adding More sail? You are not using anything that We don't already have. Or are You?

Gornt~~~ only design differences

Cernus~~~ thinking back to urth history,were not these vessels the first of what was to be called the Yankee Clippers?? looking at Gornt

Gornt~~~ it is much narrower abeam than the round ships, and longer that the ramming ships

Gornt~~~ Aye

Lemuel~~~ ~shrugging~ with a deeper keel the ship will not be as manueverable and will be a sitting gant for the tarn ships.

Gornt~~~ the keel is not that deep Lemuel, it has a skeg underneath the keel for stablity

Markos~~~ listening to the conversation, is it like the urthen viking ships

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Very Good Point Lem. Not to mention, that would make it easier for the ship to be overtaken.

no Markos, like the Yankee Clippers that Rounded the Horn

Cernus~~~ looks to Markos,good question awaits the answer

Gornt~~~ there are no new materials used, only wood, hemp and tar
Mandi is going to work with the shipwright to design sails of silk to keep the top weight down

Cernus~~~ Markos,the Cuttysark...gratest Clipper of them all...not to mention good urthen scotch

Lemuel~~~ Even so Gornt, the deeper draft will also limit the harbours available to Your ship. The tarn ships only have a draft of about 3 feet and the round ships aren't much more, only about 4 feet.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Thinking that We might be going a little off the topic.* So Gornt...The only advancements You made was a little different ship design and added more sails?

Gornt~~~ aye Captain

Gornt~~~ Lemuel, the skeg is adjustable to accomodate shallow water

Cernus~~~ Lemuel.wold not speed out do the Tarn ships,which seem a tad slower??

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Well then My answer is No...You aren't using anything new that We don't already have on Gor, you just tweaked things a little. The PKs won't come after You for that..At least I don't think They will..

Gornt~~~ from One's mouth to Their translators

Lemuel~~~ ~looking to Cernus~ Depends on the wind and what quarter it's coming from. ~shrugs~ With a good wind from the stern quarter a clipper would be much faster.

Cernus~~~ aye thought so ....twill be a good ship Gornt

Gornt~~~ Thank You Cernus
I believe speed always overcomes a good defense

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ Just that there is a defense against pirates not mentioned in the books...

Gornt~~~ ~listening to Lemuel~

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Looking to Lem.* Did I miss something?

Lemuel~~~ ~smiles~ The Greek and Roman merchant vessels would carry a large stone or lead weight aboard. When they saw a possibly hostile ship approaching they'd hoist it to the end of the yard and swing it out over the deck of the pirate. Then they'd let it loose. ~grins~ It was called a "dolphin"

Gornt~~~ ahhhhhhhhhhh, very interesting, I will remember that

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Anyone else have anything to say about the Ship?

Gornt~~~ ~listening for the next topic~
there Mandi One should be safe


The eleven kisses of a slave

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Alright...with that done..You had a question Markos?

Markos~~~ I was reading in the scrolls and came across a term I've never seen made reference to before and would like to know if A/any know it

Cernus~~~ looks to Markos and waits

Markos~~~ looking to the Captain, nodding, I have been reading the 13th scroll and in it, page 36 of the scroll, it made reference to the slave girl did not even know the 11 kisses, it was vague, does A/any others know of it

Cernus~~~ ummm 11 thought there was just the kiss of blood

Kayla~~~ Ahhhh the kisses...LOL

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ ah...an interesting question Markos...*looking to the room wondering if that's some Trivia that might stump them, knowing full well IM stumped*

Mandi~~~ *L* Apparently, so was JN, as He did not list them, Captain.

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~listening to the question.. softly~
the eleven kisses spoken of.. is like many things brought forth by John Norman.. the various shades of lipsticks.. the 101 ways a girl may enter a room.. it *hints* at it.. but as far as going into further detail.. nothing is mentioned Master..

fallen~angel~~~ *listening*

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Listening to jasma speak. Nodding and listening for any other comments.*

daaria{GS}~~~ *listens to jasma, nods, thinking that is an intersting thought..*

Markos~~~ He had advertised the girl as a trained pleasure slave, who as it turned out did not even know the eleven kisses

Lemuel~~~ ~nods~ I think I remember that part. It was a slaver that had been banished from Ar, wasn't it?

Markos~~~ nodding to the FG, knowing she is most likely right, tho it sounds provacative, W/we are left with our imaginations ?????? *LOL*

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ Yes, Master Lemuel.. ~looking up to Him~..
He was the slaver, Vart, whom once was Publius Quintus banished of Ar, nearly impaled for falsifying slave data.

Lemuel~~~ ~grins to Markos~ Aye, that is JN's style - to leave much of the more erotic happenings to our imaginations.

Markos~~~ aye Lemuel, nodding

Cernus~~~ looks with awe at jasma............girl you do now your scrolls bravo to your Master for allowing you to learn

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~dark pools sparkle in the dim lighting as she hears Master Markos~.. an imagination is a wonderful thing.. ~g~.. and even if the various kisses didn't go into detail.. there are numerous ways to kiss rt.. not just one.. or two.. ~s~

Gornt~~~ ~thinking much more interesting question than I asked, as I slip back to My furs pulling daaria closer~

Mandi~~~ On the subject of false advertising, wasn't it punishable by death to claim a slave had auburn hair, when, in fact, it was dyed?

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Thinking that jasma has a good point about different types of kisses. Perhaps it could have been 11 places to kiss a Master?

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~hearing Master Cernus's words.. a hint of crimson touches cheeks.. kneeling up a bit taller.. her voice soft~
thank You, Master..

fallen~angel~~~ all questions are good....how is one to learn if a question isn't asked ~*soft smile toward Master Gornt*~

daaria{GS}~~~ *feeling His grasp upon her as He pulls her closer to Him, purring softly, listening to the topic*

Gornt~~~ jasma, I am constantly amazed at one's encyclopedic knowledge

Lemuel~~~ ~nods to Lady Mandi~ Aye, I think so. Goreans take a very dim view of fraud. There was another case in "Kajira" where a man was representing clay pots as being made in Ar which were actually inferior copies. The man was paraded naked through the city and out the gate as I recall.

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~listening to Master Durst and Mistress Mandi~..
eleven ways Master.. ~g~.. more than 11 places.. ~giggling softly~
aye Mistress.. falsifying slave information was punishable..
also.. the girl Millicent Aubrey-Welles from Earth, when she was captured she was wearing fake pearls.. and they said only a slave would wear such.. *trying to remember* a girl believes..

Cernus~~~ but still thinking of the violent kiss of drawing blood from a girls lip by biting while kissing

Markos~~~ well that is what I was curious about whether it was 11 different kisses or a serve where she kisses 11 places, I'm sure I would like them all *LOL*

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Smiling at jasma.* you would know...

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ thank You, Master Gornt.. the wench tries to continue learning..

Cernus~~~ aye Markos 11 differnt places for her to place a kiss

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding at the first girl's reference~ Aye in "Savages" they auctioneer told the crowd and the Men were furious over such a deception.

calia{GS}~~~ ~*she kneels in silent...to listen and learn...~*

fallen~angel~~~ It is illegal to sell a slave as auburn haired if she is truly not so.

Gornt~~~ learning is a good thing jas, I am trying as well

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~looking to Master Durst.. a grin upon lips~.. slave's innocent.. ~nodding head.. then laughing as she buries head against Master Lemuel's thigh.. ~

daaria{GS}~~~ *whispering softly* daaria thinks that she would like to try implementing the 11 places to kiss on a Master..*grins and winks*

Lemuel~~~ ~reaching down and running My fingers through the first girl's sable mane, smiling~

Cernus~~~ looks around...and smiles

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~looking up as Master Lemuel speaks~
aye Master..
it is a good thing Master Gornt.. ~smiling warmly~

Cernus~~~ looks to My aandra...thinking of 11 places to kiss her.or one place to kiss 11 times

Gornt~~~ does a girl know these 11 kisses?

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~purring softly from His touch.. nuzzling head against Him and listening~

Asellus~~~ *Wondering if this topic's been discussed enough....*

aandra{Cernus}~~~ *cheeks blushing hotly, hearing Master Cernus' words, leaning in closer as the heat builds within a girl's belly*

Gornt~~~ ~chuckling~
probably M'Lady if We are going to keep order

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Looking to His Lady and sharing Her thoughts.*
Aye I think about wraps that topic up...Anyone else have a question tongiht?

aandra{Cernus}~~~ *grins at Master Gornt*

Cernus~~~ Markos ....you have caused heat to arise in Our woman by one question....grinning well done


Free Women and male slaves

Mandi~~~ We have a new kajiru in a GS collar who will be serving if he makes it through training. What are the differences when One is served by a kajiru?

Mandi~~~ I had thought in terms of the Free Women, but there may be some pointers for the Men as well.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Excellent question Mandi...*wondering why none of the recently ko'lared slaves are not here tonight.* Looking to the girls who know best for the answer to this one.*

Asellus~~~ ...Or, rather....how should a Free Woman react around the kajirus...this is a tavern...and I am not entirely sure a FW's reactions would be acceptable. *sharing a smile with Her Friend*

Lemuel~~~ ~looking to Mandi~ I doubt many of the Men will wish to be served by a kajirus.

Cernus~~~ did I hear right, if 'he' makes it through trainning???//...

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Most kajiru, don't stay around long, if there are any...

Asellus~~~ Kayla ko'larred a male slave to be added to the GS chain, Cernus. *nodding that He heard correctly*

Mandi~~~ Aye, Cernus, You heard correctly.

Asellus~~~ So.....there are no set ways a FW should behave, then, Ceredigawn? Even when being served by a kajirus?? *blinking Her eyes a few times*

daaria{GS}~~~ *grinning as she hears Master Cernus' words*

Cernus~~~ last male slave I saw was in the camp of the leapord girls

Markos~~~ well I certainly hope He serves with his thighs closed, looking to My longsword *LOL*

Gornt~~~ It is I would think up to the FW's Man if She had One, or to Her own conscience within the framework of Gorean morality for FW

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Looking to His lady.* Well The Ladies must remember that You must be careful, because anything that a Man might find innapropriate could mean trouble for You Ladies.

jasma[GS~FG}~~~ in the past when we've had male slaves in the GS collar.. they normally only serve the FW.. but during training.. they still only serve thighs close and if FM are present.. unless the slave belongs to a FW.. still not parted widely.. jaz don't think.. they're normally used to bring meat to the spit.. etc.. most FM of Gor do not wish a male slave to serve Them..

Mandi~~~ I have seen three collared in the last three days, two of them here in GS. I am not accustomed to their presence.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Chuckling at Markos, can so nothing but shake His head in laughter.*

Cernus~~~ laughs at Markos..........

aandra{Cernus~~~ *stiffling at chuckle at aandra's Master's reaction.....looks to the Lady Asellus, and smiles*
*hearing Master Markos, the laughter threatens to spill forth*

Asellus~~~ In Your presence, I'm sure the slave will, Markos...just as the kajirae are required to serve FW with their thighs closed. *nodding*

Mandi~~~ Markos, even that might not suffice

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding at the Captain's words~ Aye, and some cities have a law that if a FW couches or makes ready to couch with a slave She becomes the property of the male slave's Master.

fallen~angel~~~ Some male slaves engage in less strenuous work. Paga attendants are male slaves who work at paga taverns. They generally supervise the serving girls and collect payment for the paga and the use of the slave girls

jaz found this:

The fellow who stood by the table, scarcely noticing the girl, placed a tarsk bit in her mouth, and she fled back to the counter, where, under the eye of a paga attendant, she spit the coin into a copper bowl.
Rogue of Gor, pages 77-78
one didn't notice it saying that paga attendants were male slaves

Mandi~~~ I don't know if We can just flip genders here as to how to interact with the kajiru. **shrugs**

Asellus~~~ *Nodding at jasma's words...not really understanding why the topic is so funny to everyone else*

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Looking to fa.* I did not know that..very interesting.

calia{GS}~~~ thinking of male slaves she have known ...~* ...serving usually only FW ,and doing heavier work about the tavern ...
spitting meat,carrying ice blocks...~* .. - handling barrels of ale and such...~ her timid voice trails some...

Mandi~~~ In Ar, there is a couching law. The cities with a couching law are not enumerated in the books. If that is to be the case here, it should be clearly posted in the rules. In some places "preparing to couch" includes having a slaveboy in nadu position at Your knees.

Asellus~~~ The Couching Laws of Ar, I have read briefly about. *nodding at Lemuel, seeking enlightenment* Does Port Kar have similar laws?

fallen~angel~~~ Male slaves commonly kneel, like women do. They do not sit cross-legged like free men. Depending on the preference of their master, their knees may be spread or not.

The two guards, helmeted, threw him to his feet, and half dragging him, half carrying him, their hands on his arms brought him before us. They they forced him again to his knees, and thrust his dark, shaggy head down to the tiles before our sandals.
Hunters of Gor, page 12

I approached the table deferentially. I knelt before Lola.
Fighting Slave of Gor, page 75

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ So there were not set rules to How a woman was to react to a male slave?
Also, some kajira wear silks what do the male slaves wear?

For a male slave, or Kajirus, of the Wagon Peoples, and there are few, save for the work chains, to be clad Kajir measn to wear the Kes, a short, sleeveless work tunic of black leather.
Nomads of Gor, page 30

Men, in the fields wore short tunics of white wool; some carried hoes; their hair was close cropped; about their throats had been hammered bands of blak iron, with a welded ring attached. They did not leave the fields; such a departure, without permission, might mean their death; they were thralls.
Marauders of Gor, page 82

I know wore a short, silk tunic, white, trimmed with red.
Fighting Slave of Gor, page 75

Cernus~~~ Well Asellus I understand there should be no humor,but also understand We be Warriors,and to be evenn thinking of being served by a man is not natural in the order of Gorean thinking

Mandi~~~ I do not think that One should be subject to the extreme sanction of being enslaved for the actions of another person, slave or Free.

Asellus~~~ *Glancing at Her Friend with a smile* I believe as You do--that such needs to be clearly stated.

Lemuel~~~ ~looking to the Lady~ It never says so specifically in the books, but then the law of Ar is never said to be only of Ar either...It might be that it is a Merchant Law.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Very interesting Lemuel...What if it was one of her own?

Mandi~~~ ::chuckles:: Captain Durst, I believe thralls should wear work clothes.

Asellus~~~ Of course....but I seek clarification. *She shrugs at Cernus* I would not use a male slave in a tavern; I know better. But other FW may not.

Dak~~~ from what I've read, I've not seen male slaves used for anything but drudgery work !

fallen~angel~~~ The Couching Law exists in some Gorean cities and may have originated in Ar. Essentially the law states that any free woman who couches with another's slave, or even prepares to do so, becomes a slave herself and the slave of the male slave's master. "Couching" is a euphemism for sexual relations. Milo, a male slave from Magicians of Gor, is the primary example of a seduction slave. Milo is a large, graceful man with blond, curly hair. He is considered exceptionally handsome and wore a purple silk tunic and golden sandals. He was also a famous actor. His master, Appanius, would have him entice free women to meet him secretly. Once the women prepared to have sex with Milo, Appanius would come out of hiding with a couple witnesses and enslave the free woman pursuant to the Couching Law. Milo's activities were quite successful and his work as a seduction slave remained hidden for quite some time. In cities that do not have a Couching Law, male silk slaves may be freely given to a female guest. In addition, a male slave can be slain for touching a free woman without her permission.

Asellus~~~ Outlaws....was not Tarl himself enslaved by one of the Rencers?...and sexually used?

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckles~ Well I guess She would belong to Herself then. Seriously though, I think that would be an exception since She isn't *giving* Herself to Her own property.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ I remember male slaves being released just to be released, I think it was Tarl that did it at the beginning of Hunters?

Samos looked at me. I was satisfied. "You are free," I told the man. I turned to the guards. "Remove his chains."
Hunters of Gor, page 14

shirin{SholGar}~~~ aye, He was, Mistress Asellus

fallen~angel~~~ Male slaves rarely have locked collars. Normally their collar is a band of iron hammered about their neck. There is also no distinctive garb for male slaves as Goreans do not want them to discover how numerous they are, especially in the cities. The wool of the hurt is often used for male slave garments as it absorbs perspiration well.

The heavy iron collar I had worn now was replaced with a lighter collar, enameled white.
Fighting Slave of Gor, page 75

Gornt~~~ I was on a site where there were a couple of them
they were owned by One of the FWs
they were actually very graceful in their serves, and I never felt uncomfortable in their presence

Asellus~~~ fallen angel, thank you! *reading the supplied information carefully and smiling gratefully*

Advisor 20:37:18 CST

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to Asellus~ Aye, in "Raiders" Tarl was enslaved and used by Telima.

"What is your name, Slave?" asked she.
"Tarl," said I.
She struck me savagely across the mouth, flinging my head to one side.
"A slave has no name," she said.
"I have no name," I said.
She walked about me. "Your back is broad," she said. "You are strong, but stupid." She laughed. "I shall call you Bosk," she said.
Raiders of Gor, page 26

"I will now teach you the fate of a pretty slave," she said.
Suddenly, her hands in my hair, she thrust her lips savagely down on mine and, to my horror, my lips met hers, but could not withstand them and I felt her head forcing mine down and I felt her teeth cut into my lips and I tasted blood, my own, in my mouth, and then, insolently, her tongue thrust into my mouth, possessively, forcing mine, as it would, from its path, and then, after some Ehn, withdrawing her tongue, she bit me, as I cried out in pain, diagonally across the mouth and lips, that, on the morrow, when I stood at stake in festival, the marks of my mistress's teeth, evidence of her conquest of me, would be visible in my body.
I was shattered.
I had been given the kiss of the Mistress to the male slave.
"You will move as I direct," she said.
In the darkness, shattered, bound, mouth swollen, I heard her with horror.
Then she mounted me, and used me for her pleasure.
Raiders of Gor, page 39

Asellus~~~ *Hissing at Lemuel with a smile* Wait! I'm not there in the book yet! *LOL*

Mandi~~~ And they probably had the sense to maintain a respectful distance from You, Gornt.

fallen~angel~~~ You welcome Mistress ~*soft smile*~

fallen~angel~~~ Tarl Cabot was enslaved several times during the series but always won his way to freedom. Jason Marshall started off on Gor as a slave but also won his way to freedom.

Dak~~~ He was also enslaved and used to row a ship !

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~looking to Master Lemuel.. then smiling as Master Prometheus enters~

but Master Dak.. that changes once in Fighting Slave of Gor.. Jason Marshall is a male silk slave.. at the time..*s*

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ The essence of the couching law is that the FW is *giving* Herself to a slave, so there are no doubt exceptions such as the FW owning the slave or receiving him as a gift, etc.

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~nods listening to Master Lemuel~*~ aye, Raiders, thank You for correcting shirin
~*~fingertips playing on thighs, eyes downcast~*~

Dak~~~ haven't gotten that far !

Gornt~~~ ~looking at Mandi, touching My chest, mouthing "Moi"~

fallen~angel~~~ It is thought that Jason Marshall, from books 14-16, was the first Earth man brought to Gor as a slave.......

Asellus~~~ *Nodding* Insightful, fa. *S* And, yes, Jason Marshall--another example.

Asellus~~~ But...*thinking of something*...how does Gorean Shores' "once a slave, always a slave" theory work in keeping with the Couching Laws? *glancing around curiously* How could the kajirus be released and his role reversed to be Free and the FW slave?

Prometheus~~~ And in Raiders Tarl was used sexually when he fell slave to Talena... but then that was part of Samos's grand plan... to give humanity as he said later... it also made him more Gorean...

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ No one said the male slave would be freed, Lady Asellus, just that the FW would be enslaved.

Asellus~~~ Hmmm....*She smiles dubiously*....if You say so, Lemuel. *She chuckles* Sounds like a trick, if You ask Me.

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~chuckles, knowing Mistress Asellus is a sharp One~*~

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckles~ Aye, and it was a *trick* in "Magicians" or rather a trap, with Milo acting as the bait. ~grins~

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Aye Lady...that could have been the point..Offer a very introguing FW and thrall, then snatch her for Himself..Not a bad little scheme..Thinking the new thrall could be a way to add to the GS chain..*Evil Chuckle*

fallen~angel~~~ fa thinks that is just the rules that the Captains here decided to make the rule once a slave always a slave, regardless of gender

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~listening to Mistress Asellus~.. Milo, in Magicians of Gor, was a slave.. an actor.. but a slave.. and he tricked many Free Women.. they ended up in collar.. ~s~

Mandi~~~ I don't think that the Ones who would fall for that trick would make it through training, Captain Durst. *chuckling*

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~giggling and looking to Master Lemuel.. winking.. then burying her head against His thigh once more before returning to scribe the notes.. ~

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to fa'~ Aye, in the books slaves were sometimes freed - both male and female.

fallen~angel~~~ Milo is a large, graceful man with blond, curly hair. He is considered exceptionally handsome and wore a purple silk tunic and golden sandals. He was also a famous actor. His master, Appanius, would have him entice free women to meet him secretly. Once the women prepared to have sex with Milo, Appanius would come out of hiding with a couple witnesses and enslave the free woman pursuant to the Couching Law. Milo's activities were quite successful and his work as a seduction slave remained hidden for quite some time. In cities that do not have a Couching Law, male silk slaves may be freely given to a female guest. In addition, a male slave can be slain for touching a free woman without her permission.

Capt._Ceredigawn's_Woman 20:50:51 CST

Asellus~~~ *She shakes Her head, smiling* You Men will do anything to get all the slaves You can. As if the tavern hasn't gotten aplenty as is.

Lemuel~~~ ~laughing~ Are We that transparent, Asellus? ~grins, winking~

Prometheus~~~ Thank You Lemuel *S. Seems to be a very good forum You all have going here...

calia{GS}~~~ ~*giggles stream from slaves lips,as she hears the words of Mistress Asellus...~*

fallen~angel~~~ ~*laffin softly as she hears Mistress Asellus*~ why have one ale, kalana, paga when You can have a multiple???? the more the merrier, or is it the more the merrier the Master?

Asellus~~~ *re-claiming Her kneel in the furs dejectedly* Relentless...*referring both to the urts and the Free Men*

Lemuel~~~ ~nods to Prometheus~ Yes, we meet every Monday night from 7:00-9:00 PM (cst) and discuss whatever comes to mind.

Mandi~~~ ::chuckling at My Friend, the Musician::
I suppose the little ones will teach the thralls to dance to music.

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ It's the second of the two fa...*chuckling*

fallen~angel~~~ aii Sir that is what fa thought *giggling softly*

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~listening to Mistress Mandi.. offering~.. since this one's been here.. she's never seen a male slave *dance*.. she don't believe that's one of the things taught to them..

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ I think that as far as the rules go here..and Anyone correct Me if I am wrong...As long as a woman doesn't do anything openly with a thrall, or doesn't speak about it openly she is safe....*Remembering a certain FW who was almost ko'lared b/c she constantly had needs from Her slave.*

Asellus~~~ But now You have Your hands full with Your Own Woman. *She chuckles* That has to be more than enough to keep You on Your toes. *laughing as She winks at Him*

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to the Captain~ Aye, that is My understanding as well.

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~nodding head as she listens to Master Durst.. ~.. aye Master

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ You got that right My Dear....*winking back at her.*

Asellus~~~ Why not, jasma? I don't see how that would be a breach of anything? Just a simple dance. Could be interesting, in My opinion. *ss*

Markos~~~ Gor is going to the Women, shaking My head, there goes the neighborhood *LOL*

fallen~angel~~~ fa would think that dancing is often done in a paga tavern, as FW were not known to frequent a paga tavern there would be no need for male slaves to dance there, after all no Free Man wishes to see a male slave shake his thang *G*

Asellus~~~ Are You so sure it isn't already about the Women....beneath all of it....Markos? *chuckling cryptically*

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckles~ If You want to see Men dance Asellus, maybe some of us Free Men could do a ship dance or a hunting dance. ~smirking, eyes twinkling~

Asellus~~~ Yes, true, fallen angel, very true. *shakes Her head and laughs*

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~listening to Mistress Asellus~.. slave dances are sensual.. provocative.. showing a slave's deep need.. that hunger.. and.. she don't believe.. that it would be something a male slave would be taught to do.. especially in open.. a FM may not wish to see a male slave dance and say something.. kill the slave.. or many other things, Mistress.. in jaz's opinion..

calia{GS}~~~ ~*calias perched ass wiggles ~* ....squirming some at the thought of Master Lemuel dancing...~* ....-listening even more intent to the conversation *l*

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Chuckling at Lemuel's remark.* Or We Men can just walk around here nekkid.

Asellus~~~ Okay. I can accept that. *nodding at jasma's offered reason, Her mind spinning around other ideas*

Mandi~~~ Good point, jaz. We can't just flip genders when it comes to the thralls.
I would not want to see a kajiru killed for trying to emulate his chain sisters.

Asellus~~~ *Opening Her mouth about to say something about the FW always getting the shaft.....then....thinking better of it....She giggles instead*

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~looking to Master Lemuel.. a mischievious grin upon lips.. wiggling brows.. then lowering eyes.. she listens~

Prometheus~~~ *LOL. That works *G. Or a quiva in there.

Lemuel~~~ ~laughing at My Caste Brother's comment~ Aye C.D. - that would fix 'em!

Mandi~~~ ::chuckling at Asellus::: Gor ain't fair, Friend.

calia{GS}~~~ ...~* absently a purrrr escapes calia's lips as she smiles to Master Durst ~* biting into her pearly lips to yield her mewlllsss.....

Prometheus~~~ Re: the Gor going to the women.... And then there's the one's who "think" they know it all after being in an online Gor room fora few months and haven't even bothered to read a book...

fallen~angel~~~ How about an Ore Dance?? *G*

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ Tis' A Man's world My Lady...

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ I know. Believe Me--I know. *She chuckles at Mandi and shrugs*

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~lifting eyes as she hears the words Master Prometheus speaks.. nodding head up and down.. totally in agreement~.. aye Master

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to Prometheus~ Aye, we get our fare share of those in here too.

Lemuel~~~ ~puzzled look~ An Ore dance??? What's that fa'?

elana{SDR}~~~ *smiles, dark eyes twinkling as she hears Master Prometheus' comments, agreeing with Him*

Prometheus~~~ I heard of a case just yesterday... enough to make you gag... Yes, as do most places I imagine...

Prometheus~~~ *Smiles. Yes, you've seen much too..

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~remembering once when Master Rollo traveled with the wench to Torvaldsland for The Thing Fair and danced the Oar Dance.. smiling at the memory.. ~

fallen~angel~~~ *laffin* it was a dance fa once saw at Gorean Chat...*laffin softly* was Free Men jumping from ore to ore on a ship for a competition. was quite funny seeing some fall in the thassa *hehehe*

Lemuel~~~ ~slapping My forehead~ Ohh!!! And oar dance! Duh!

fallen~angel~~~ sorry fa's spelling is HORRIBLE *blushing*

Dak~~~ oh, that is in Marauders, you mean an oar dance

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckles~ To a Builder ore is the rock you get metal from, fa. That's why I didn't get it.

Prometheus~~~ Riding the oar *L. Pinishment and getting fish...

Ceredigawn Durst~~~ *Looking at the time.* Well A/all...This concludes another forum...The topics were very good tonight, and once again I learned some new things. I am sure others did as well..Feel Free to stick around, and have some drinks, and food, even a kajira..

Gornt~~~ Thank You Captain, for an interesting discussion

elana{SDR}~~~ thank You for allowing this one to attend and listen, Master Durst *soft smile*

Asellus~~~ fa, your contribution of information was very helpful tonight. *ss*

calia{GS}~~~ calia's words softly lift from her heart,as they flow smoothly past the fullness of her lips~*
this slave thanks her Owners for allowing her to attend this forum and learn by discussion ~* ...eyes lowered ,with due respect....

Lemuel~~~ ~G~ Good forum Captain. Thanks for hosting it.

Mandi~~~ Captain, that was a good forum.

Prometheus~~~ My thanks for letting me know about your forum here Lemuel and jasma *S. I'm sure elana and I will be back.

jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~finishing up the notes.. her voice a caress~
jaz thanks You, Master Durst for moderating the forum tonight and for permitting her to be here and learn..