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The ignore button
Drawing people into the Tavern
Keeping the slaves happy
Conduct on the Board

The ignore button

Kyoto~~~ *Having just perused the boards, shaking my head as I walk to my furs*
Everything has to be a drama with some people... you'd think they would just shut up and not question the one thing a Gorean holds above all else... his honor.

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding at Kyoto's comment~ Aye, and perhaps that calls for a reminder...
Anyone, Free or slave, that proves to be disruptive to this Tavern can - and should be - placed on ignore if they enter.

topaz{Rast}~~~ *nods in understanding at Master Lemuel's words*

vika{Marius}~~~ ~vika nods in understanding Master Lemuel....~

jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~nodding head up and down as He speaks.. whispering~.. yes, Master

Kyoto~~~ *Chuckling*
Expecting trouble, Lem?

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckling~ No, just reminding everyone that if there is trouble with outsiders they can ignore the person in question with the blessing of the Council.

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding as I see the slaves understand~


Drawing people into the Tavern

Lemuel~~~ ~checking the waterclock against the chronometer from My pouch, noting they are within an ehn of each other and nodding~
Alright, let's begin the forum. Same rules as always. No need for kjajirae to beg entrance or departure, keep greetings, off topic posts and other chit chat to a minimum or in whispers, etc., etc.
PM Me with any topics.

jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~readying the rence paper and writing utensil as forum is about to begin.. listening~

Lemuel~~~ Since I don't have a topic yet, I'd like to bring up something that was being discussed Friday night - ways to draw more people into the Tavern on other nights.

Rast Dulan~~~ Listening closely...

galah{RA}~~~ oooooohhh galah knows how to do that, but ain't been done in a very long time hehehehheheeee galah was gs major recruiter for quite some time hehehehehheee

Kyoto~~~ Hmmm, Thursday night could be SabreWolf's World Famous Grillin' Sauce night... you bring the meat, any meat, and we'll grill it up nice for you?

vika{Marius}~~~ ~vika wonders if grillin' marks would accentuate her little round ass...then promptly pays attention.....~

Kyoto~~~ *Sits and studies vika's nice little round ass, wondering how grillin' marks might look there*

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding at Kyoto's suggestion and galah's comment~
Yes, one of the suggestions was to have one night during the week on which an event would be scheduled. The night could be fixed, or it could rotate. We could have a dance night one week and sparring the next, maybe singing, meat toss, ~G~ a grill night...
Also, recruiting new members is an excellent idea.

vika{Marius}~~~ ~Roasted rrrrrrrrumP.....vika has noticed it has been getting a bit more busy in the Tavern as of late.... ~

vika{Marius}~~~ ~vika nods...that would be fun, Master Lemuel.....~

Kyoto~~~ Seriously, it is a good subject... the past couple of days, when I've not had time but for a brief peek, I've looked in on the tavern and not seen a soul here... yet I would see them elsewhere... what we should do, is ask these people, perhaps an anon (shuddering at the word) questionaire?

Sabre Wolf~~~ good to see Yall too,,grins,My favorite subject next to fighting and furrin,,,one of the 3 basic "F" groups,,,food,,,laughs

galah{RA}~~~ galah use to pm strangers in the pool, non members and names she hasn't seen before....she would make it a simple "greetings from gorean shores Master Whomever" some would answer back and be curious to what gorean shores was...some of those became patrons and she knows of at least one who became a captain from this type of recruiting heheheheheheee

Sabre Wolf~~~ I try to use the 3 post rule to give Folks time to gather,,,3-5 entering then leaving the tavern usually somebody follows close behind,,I noticed that as well,,folks missing each other by only a few ehn,,

Lemuel~~~ ~nods again~ Yes, we could make up a questionaire and place it on the main board and have people make suggestion or vote on some different ideas.

Rast Dulan~~~ Lemuel..how many Tavern slaves are there?

Sabre Wolf~~~ 3 and about 9 missing,,

penny{Kyo}~~~ Another good recruiting method is to actually talk to the better written of the anonymous whisperers, and tell them about GS, educate them a bit on the concept of D/s if it isn't familiar... penny has had lots of luck in the past with this sort of recruitment...

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckles~ Good question, Rast. Lets see...only a couple I think. ~looking to My girl for confirmation~

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding at the recruitment suggestions~
Those are some very good ideas. I was also recruited by jaz. She found Me over at the WoG board. ~G~

Rast Dulan~~~ Just a thought that perhaps a campaign of sorts...to capture some slaves for the Tavern...tavern slaves tend to draw the Free...smiles

jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~listening~..
a girl has a record of 2 that come around almost regularly and 3 that don't come too often.. and a few that have vanished to go elsewhere

Molly~~~ ~listens~

Kyoto~~~ Perhaps to just capture the ones that are missing... by the way, which are missing?

Rast Dulan~~~ Grinning...knowing Kyoto's ears would perk up at the talk of capturing slaves...

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ Well, as for raids...it's the official policy that Members of GS *NOT* raid other Gorean sites...

galah{RA}~~~ it's a vicious circle, there are not enough slaves around here cause there is not enough Masters that don't already have slaves....there are not enough Masters cause there are not enough unowned slaves to choose from, and galah sees many a time that she looks to see whos here and gs is full of FW...galah won't come be run off her feet for that and don't think other slaves will either...it's an age old problem

Molly~~~ ~listen~

galah{RA}~~~ don't take it wrong please, galah loves most of our FW, and they portray the perfect FW now, in the past it wasn't always the case....but slaves burn to serve MEN, not women

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding~ Ay, but just because a slave is owned doesn't mean she is restricted. My jasma is unrestricted except for going off to an alcove.

Kyoto~~~ I love to come in when the place is full of Free Women, I spend the time playing "Guess the ko'lar size" as I look at em.

Rast Dulan~~~ I suppose galah..it is like the chicken and the egg...which comes first. I think if the room is full of slaves...all kinds of Master's..or potential Master's will show up....

galah{RA}~~~ yesterday, galah counted five FW in GS, not one Master and not one slave....now to this one, indicates a big problem

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckling at Kyoto's comment~

galah{RA}~~~ the subject of restriction was covered much in yesterdays forum...and most slaves are restricted and all the reasons why came up...it is a necessity on online gor....but it's not much encouragment for slaveless Masters that come in

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding~ Recruiting fresh blood seems to be the best answer to that problem.

Rast Dulan~~~ Tavern slaves tend to be unrestricted...so perhaps more tavern slaves are needed. By the way, in my opinion seeing slaves in training around a tavern is very interesting...

Kyoto~~~ *Considering galah's words*
In all seriousness, I do have to agree with you. Gor is for men, it's the ultimate power trip. And the women who come in, the slaves at least, crave a man on that power trip. To come in and see the room full of FW is, as I have said in the past, no better than a tea party...

galah{RA}~~~ yes Master Kyoto, and many of the Masters like to tease the FW in that way, but again, it's a way to keep the slaves away, for this one and many others she would guess, are tired of endless serves to a Master that is to busy cause he is teasing the FW

topaz{Rast}~~~ but that is talking restriction for furring...not from being able to be here, to serve, to converse, to dance, to entertain!!...there has to be more "owned" slaves that enter not only when their Master is here to take care of the patrons who frequent the tavern...topaz has been trying...but cannot be here 24/7

Sabre Wolf~~~ I often worry about how long it will be before curtains are hung in the tavern,,laughs

galah{RA}~~~ it's like the typical, fun to chase something you can't have than to have what's easy...just a thought, should galah put her soap box away now Masters?

Kyoto~~~ *chuckling*
galah, I tease the Free Women when they are here... but I could care less about them once a slave is serving me... this is a paga tavern, and I want to see a hot slut walking across the room, then kneeling before me holding up that bowl... drag em to my lap whether there are women here or not... trouble is, my lap can only hold, well, about two girls ata atime... so then I have to come up with other "chores".

Sabre Wolf~~~ I have to agree Bro,,grins,,nothing like a naked girl witha full tankerd,,,

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding at the comments~ What about the idea for an "event night"? Do you think that might pull in more people if it was a regular thing?

Kayla~~~ Well the slaves would be happier with more Men in the Tavern...LOL...

Kayla~~~ what brings in the Men?... slaves running around serving and doing their damnest to please all the Men...

Kyoto~~~ And the men with more slaves in the tavern...

Mandi~~~ *chuckling @ Kayla* Is it this old which came first, the vulo or the egg debate yet again? The Men would like to see more slaves, and the slaves would like to see more Men. Sorry, but Our integrity requires We come in as Whoever We are, and it is pretty catch or catch can in virtual time.

Lemuel~~~ ~nods~ Aye we could give *real* prizes like that or just have a night when people *knew* there would be something happening. Look at the turnout we get for forum night...mosly because people *know* that Monday nights people will be in the Tavern.

galah{RA}~~~ yes Mistress Kayla, having more Masters around would fix all the problems, but how to get more men around is the problem...looks like galah is gonna have to do some more active recruiting around here, but then everyone else, free included, need to help the newbies become good goreans hehehehee

Lemuel~~~ ~nods to Mandi~ Aye, one of the good ideas was to recruit new people to the tavern.

Kayla~~~ I agree Mandi and in the meantime while the Men and slaves decide whether to come in or not We can continue with Our "tea parties" ~laughing softly~

Kyoto~~~ It would be nice if the numbers would stay up after the forum, but most disappear back into the woodwork, leaving me alone with just FW again.
*Dramatic sigh*

Mandi~~~ *chuckling* Perhaps if We were actually DOING something in here instead of bemoaning the lack of slaves or Free Men.

topaz{Rast}~~~ Aye Master Lemuel, true...and topaz found when there were the book reviews/discussions, people showed...
she does think that is the route to go...have another night...where certain events are planned...and post it on the Boards a few days in advance...for example...sparring on Friday night 8PM EST

Kyoto~~~ I'll do my best, galah.

Lemuel~~~ ~looks to galah~ Aye girl, if you find any new ones you can steer them My way. I'd be happy to learn up some newbies. ~G~

Kayla~~~ Agreed galah it is everyone of the Home to recruit and train the newbies to be the best thay can be whether it is slave or Free

Kayla~~~ Oh you love it Kyoto... You love torturing Us and trying to keep Us on Our toes and barring that You just like being out numbered...LOL

topaz~~~ aye galah...*big ass grin*....bring in the Masters...topaz will help entertain them!...*laughing as she ducks under her Master's arm*

Kyoto~~~ Friday night spars, eh? That might be tough for me.

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to topaz~ Aye, we tried it for a while and it seemed to be working. What we need is a commitment by everyone that feels we need to bring more people in to *do* something. Each person should volunteer to organize an event.

Mandi~~~ Perhaps getting the Festival events judged and posting that would spawn some enthusiasm for some more events in the Tavern.

Kyoto~~~ Perhaps, but I would like it more if there were a cuddly slave or two to keep me warm in the midst of the famed Free Woman's fridgity that Norman wrote so eloquently about.

topaz{Rast}~~~ Master Kyoto...twas simply an example...could be Thursday night...say to break up the week...*smiling*

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to Mandi~ Aye, I'm still trying to get that done. I hope to have the rest of the votes by the end of the week...if not, I may just post 'em anyway. ~G~

topaz{Rast}~~~ aye Mistress Mandi, that is true as well...the Festival was quite some time ago....and she is sure there are many who have forgotten about it....

Kayla~~~ Well at least You are not trying to warm up the FW...LOL

Mandi~~~ And it should not require a Festival or even a special event to get P/people doing something in the Tavern besides greet, drink, and wish well.

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding~ I agree Mandi.

jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~softly~.. we did try a trivia night in here before, but that didn't seem to go over too well.

Sabre Wolf~~~ I issue as many death match challanges as I can legally do,,grins,,

Kyoto~~~ Is there a limit to the number, Sabre?

Mandi~~~ jasma, not every event would have to be a "blockbuster" to be a success. I enjoyed the trivia as being something to wager on and to learn from.

Lemuel~~~ ~smiles at My girl~ The "Stump Lemuel" night went pretty good though.

Kayla~~~ I don't know guys... the Tavern has been much busier than it used to Be on most every night...

jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~smiling up at Him.. ~ a girl enjoyed that Master..
~nodding~.. yes, Mistress Mandi

topaz{Rast}~~~ aye it has indeed..*grins at Mistress Kayla*

galah{RA}~~~ Master Rollo just said that he will buy the 5 for one memberships to be given to any new GS slaves...what do you all think?

Kayla~~~ and not JUST FreeWomen Kyoto... Between Rass, Rast, Belial and Raka... Those are in most nights... which by the way Sabre, Rast is intrested in pledging but wants You ~shaking My head as to the whys of that!...LOL~

Molly~~~ Now that the nonsense & fighting has stop people wish to come back~ I know I do ~S~

Lemuel~~~ I think that's a good idea as long as they agree to be in here most of the time.

Kyoto~~~ Woo! Sounds like a plan to me, galah... how do we go about getting them signed up?

Mandi~~~ **chuckling** Now, there's an affirmative recruitment, galah.

Kayla~~~ sounds like a wonderful idea galah *S* if it will bring in the girls I am for it ~winking at Kyoto~

Kayla~~~ LOL... some of the bickering was bringing in People just to see what new shit was happening....LOL

galah{RA}~~~ don't know the how abouts yet Master Kyoto, guess he will figure that out with Master GaryM....he just wanted to throw that out there

Sabre Well~~~ I think Pledged Patrons or slaves galah,,for 3 months

Lemuel~~~ If we can find a couple of promising candidates, I have a couple of memberships I'd part with too.

Sabre Wolf~~~ I think We could combine Our coins and get a stock of limited time memberships for folks to try out GS with,,(for Rollo)

galah{RA}~~~ Master Rollo says to Master Sabre "from his younger days, the saying always was, ass, gas or grass, no one rides for free...we have no gas or no grass on gor, all that's left is ass, if that is what will attract new Masters, then he will buy the memberships for new tavern slaves

Sabre Wolf~~~ hold a membership drive like public t.v,,laughs,,swear you sword today,,getta free 3 month mebership and this handy travel mug,,,fits in yer tarn saddle nicely,,laughs

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding~ Aye, we could start them with short term memberships and if they work out, we could sponsor them for a year...

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~giggling hard at Master Rollo's words~*~

Kayla~~~ Laughing at the Senior Captains words~

Kyoto~~~ Hmmm, no grass, but kanda leaves... now that's something.

Sabre Wolf~~~ ok Captain,,grins

Deirdre~~~ *chuckling hard*

shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~laughin harder at Master Sabre~*~

Kayla~~~ I am not throwing in the kanda leaves Kyoto

Sabre Wolf~~~ lets develop the idea of an icon bank maybe Lem,,smiles,,anyone could donate one or request one,,

Lemuel~~~ ~nods~ Yes, we could do that. A good way to reward new people that have shown an interest.


Keeping the slaves happy

Molly~~~ Can I say something without it becoming lets jump all over Molly?

Kyoto~~~ *Grinning at Sabre*
I promise not to jump you, Molly.

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ It's forum Molly, everyone can speak.

Rast Dulan~~~ well if Sabre promises..i promise...wink..

Molly OKay~ I've mentioned his before and when I did it was ignored or just blown out of content~ I've spoken to quiet a few girls and some feel they are not appreciated, some feel they are looked over, some felt at times certain ones got special attention~ also some feel that they are being yelled at and not helped, some feel trapped because they wish to be released to a Master that will be here other than every 30 days~

galah{RA}~~~ yes Mistress Molly, there is indeed miscontent on the slaves part....that is why galah is opening her big mouth about this issue, she thinks there are less tavern owned slaves now than ever before....but how to get them here, again it's that age old problem with no good answers

Rast Dulan~~~ Taking in some of the posts..including Molly's...
True enough, Gor is for men, in other words they control Gor...and this Tavern. So it would make sense that the FM would have to make the change...not the FW.
So perhaps it is up to us FM to pull up our socks...and do two things..
1. Tell our slaves to serve. That is one of the basics of a slave.
2. Appreciate them for serving us, but for serving ...period.

Molly~~~ But the truth is GS has been really great for Me and I trully try to make the girls feel welcomed & appreciated I know I'm supposed to be prim & proper but I'm a fun person and I've seen lot of gloom so I try to keep the girls entertained

Kyoto~~~ *Nodding as I listen to Molly*
I've had the same types of conversations with a few girls. And I honestly try my best to pay attention to the girls. To watch their serves, to enjoy their dances, to appreciate their fine bodies...
*Voice drifting off at that, a fleck of drool appearing on my chin*

galah{RA}~~~ you look at nearly everyone in gorean shores, they are all couples now...the Masters either have a personal slave, or they have a free woman....what does that leave for any new ones?

topaz{Rast}~~~ but tis not a slave's place to be picky and choosy, to desire only to enter when a certain "few" are here...tis not a slave's place to feel she is better or less than another, or to feel appreciated...she is slave...she is kajira, tis her job to be pleasing no matter what...beautiful always...

Sabre Wolf~~~ I apperacte them Rast,,,chuckles,,I feed them every time We play meat catch,,and even pet them on occasion,,,what more could a animal ask for?...

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ Just because I have a personal slave doesn't mean I won't take a serve from another girl, galah.

Sabre Wolf~~~ ok,,I'm gonna do My part and kolar the next 15 unkolared slaves I see,,,chuckles

Molly~~~ Why is it that Masters kolar girls then leave? I know it would bother Me to never see Sabre, and it kinda brings your moral down because who wants to watch another slave or FW with their Mate? Maybe the councial could make a new rule that a Master has to at least try to frequent the Tavern show a commitment to GS & the slave? and if they dont maybe grant the girl to be release to GS~

Sabre Wolf~~~ all the girls gotta do is beg the Council in an email for Us to look into it,,We try to get hold of the Fellow and see how he feels,,,then make Our decisions based on that,,smile

Kayla~~~ Well I have something to say about it... since when are whiney slave running the Tavern?... In some cases thier complaints are valid in others they are acting like a bunch of subbie princesses wanting the Men to be panting over them... Most Men to appreciate the serves but if they are not cumming all over them selves or if anyone else is getting the attention they are upset...
So what about that?

Lemuel~~~ Molly, the trouble is that most of the slaves are *looking* for a personal Master.

galah{RA}~~~ galah agrees that slaves should serve but would like to add that serving could mean many things, not just bringing someone a fake drink...this one feels she serves better by entertainment value, her sisters seem to get a kick out of her shananagans and so do the free, this would also be serving? GS use to be so much fun and this one only came back to TRY and bring some fun back into it, no one here has any idea how hard it is for me to be at a keyboard for any length of time, but galah loves her vt home

Kyoto~~~ Molly, there kind of is a rule like that... if a girl can show no contact for 30 days, she can be released by the tavern... trouble is when the "Master" knows this and speaks to her every 29 days...

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding~ Aye, there are some girls that seem to thrive on complaints, but there is some validity to the complaints. Many of the Men just get a serve as an excuse to fur and never ask a girl to dance or do chores or just chat.

Sabre Wolf~~~ well,,,such is the lot of a slave Bro,,,smiles

Kayla~~~ And as far as so many FW being in the Tavern when there are no slaves ot men about... We certainly are not keeping them out... in fact most of the FW of Our Home do everything to bring in the girls and Men

galah{RA}~~~ slaves aren't running the tavern Mistress Kayla, they know their place, so they just go away instead...that's why we don't have many slaves now

Kyoto~~~ I have no time for "princess subbies", what I want to see is a girl with topaz's attitude, that they are slaves first and foremost and that the tavern is their priority... then I want to see a limit of two FW per night placed on the tavern...
*grinning at Kayla*

Sabre Wolf~~~ it's a paga tavern Lem,,,grins,,,what Ya expect??

topaz{Rast}~~~ aye galah...true, and that is what topaz was saying earlier...tis not only furring...or serving...but the others things that make this a Home, a Tavern...conversing, joking, laughing, dancing....all contribute to a healthy environment, and tis up to the slaves to ensure they are providing it to the best of their abilities...as it does also make for a more fun time!...
*chuckles as she remembers a few nights in here...of different things that happened...even to being tied up and left in an alcove...*eyes dancing with laughter*

Sabre Wolf~~~ 2 a night,,We get to kolar the rest?,,,grins @ Kyoto,

Kayla~~~ Most of the slaves with the fire buring bright within will serve any and all not pick and choose who THEY want to serve.
but so many stay out waiting for the One???.... what is that?

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckles~ Aye Sabre, of course there is going to be serves of drink and furring, but there can - and should be- more, IMO. It gets boring doing or receiving the same serve over and over.

Kyoto~~~ Kayla, that is a slave in need of a whip...

Sabre Wolf~~~ I agree Lem,,,thats why I play the wagering and meat catch,,kariji toss and mud wresteling,,Ya think that keeps them out?/

Lemuel~~~ ~laughs~ No, I think that would bring 'em in. And I'd like to see that sort of thing happen on a regular basis.

Kayla~~~ 2 a night?... is that to keep the odds down in Your favor ~grinning at Kyoto~...
galah I never said the girls were running the Tavern any more than the FW are ~smiling softly at her~ I am speaking of the girls who whine about thier lot in life as a slave saying no one pays attentioon to me... look at me! and demand attention or stay away...
If their serves and personality does not get them the attention they crave from the Men then maybe time to rethink thier serves?

Kayla~~~ ~looking around and counting the 3 girls here~ Seems to Me that the slaves are not even here that have the problems in which to give voice to thier concerns...
No once can say that the three that are here do not give their all and are in the Tavern when they are on line...

galah{RA}~~~ but Mistress Kayla, remember these are online ppl behind these slave silks, they do have a mind and feelings, and they being gorean slaves, wish to serve MEN, serving FW is only a chore, not something a slave burns to do...once a slave has given a serve her all to a Master, her wish to continue serving him be that a massage, a friendly chat or whatever...what happens instead, she is sent away to serve others....it would be good if FP could remember that we are slaves and not waitresses

Kyoto~~~ Lem, then try to come up with a way to make the serve more interesting... can you think of a better way to test a girl's creativeness then a serve while in she-quad?

Mandi~~~ What is the question here? We want more slaves in to serve or We want fewer Free Women the Tavern, or We don't want Goreans elsewhere on the site?

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckles looking at My girl~ now I never thought of that one...
But, yes...I've tried to do some creative things with serves to keep them interesting for both the girl and Myself. But how do You tell a Warrior to do that? ~G~

Kayla~~~ a chore to serve FW?... galah I hope no girl gives Me the attitude of I am a chore...LOL... I will show them what a chore really is...
I understand that the fire to serve completely may not be met by a FW but the desire to please best be there...

Lemuel~~~ Well the topic started out as how to get more people into the Tavern, but seems to have drifted to, "how to keep the slaves happy"

galah{RA}~~~ hehehehheeee Mistress Kayla, any slave worth her salt would know better than to be sloppy or discontent in her serve to a FW, if nothing else, a smart slave will give a better serve to a FW because they know that the FW is not as tolerant of any lil glitches she may make hehehehee

Kayla~~~ ~winking at galah~ Now would FW be like that?

Mandi~~~ Last night a Free Woman came in here and went off to another site to be collared because the Man could not get in due to a "firewall" issue.

Kayla~~~ Well We are down one less FW the Lady Jakala is now a slave ~shaking My head over the scroll just recieved~ Oh well One less in the count...

Mandi~~~ I sometimes intentionally stay out of the Tavern thinking that the presence of the Free Women has been one of the problems. Same old dung either way. I am in here when there is some reason to be here, as in r/t I am no "Norm" in a tavern, either.

Mandi~~~ We have not placed one single doily or asked that Any use coasters or even prongs in here, so what is the BFD?

Mandi~~~ I suppose that makes the case for opening up the Piazza.


Conduct on the Board

Molly~~~ ~Just waits for next topic~

Lemuel~~~ O.K. - any other topics?

Lemuel~~~ Here's a new topic:
"Is a posting on the Board conduct within Our Home to be dealt with accordingly?"

shirin{SholGar}~~~ it is for a slave, Master Lemuel, right?

Kyoto~~~ I think so Lem, as many agree, the board is a part of the tavern... and any posting there should be done as if the person were within the tavern itself.

Lemuel~~~ ~nods~ I think anything on the board falls within the protocols for the Tavern. Afterall, according to the description, the board is *in* the Tavern. So, I'd say that applies to Free as well as slave, shirin.

Sabre Wolf~~~ I've never said nothing on that board that I didn't mean,,grin,,I don't agree with r/t info birthdays,christmas,ect,ect,,and I don't even mind a lil arguing on the board cause I'm for free speech,,but in a Gorean context

Kayla~~~ I agree.. One should post on the boards as it were in the open Tavern and be held accountable as such

Molly~~~ Are there no holidays in GS? no birthdays?

Mandi~~~ We do have the auxiliary board, where there is considerably more latitude to post r/t Names Days, philosophical questions, rants and so forth.
It seemed that all three Moons were full for a while, and it showed on Our Boards.
Frankly, Our Boards have been something of an embarassment when visitng with Others about Gor. But the give-and-take and occasional clash represents a sign of life, and that the tension, the dynamic remains. It is not all bad news.

Lemuel~~~ ~nodding~ Aye, there is another board for r/t wishes and non-Gorean stuff:
Auxiliary Board.

Mandi~~~ Frankly, I do not wish My actual Names Day to be so public, because of the many uses to which that could be put by Those up to no good. Just a thought.

Sabre Wolf~~~ so,,if We wanna r/t kick somebodys ass We post it there???grins

Lemuel~~~ There are some Gorean holidays Molly.

Molly~~~ ~hee hee~ hearing His words

Mandi~~~ Sabre, if You were gonna kick an ass r/t, would You even bother to post it at all, or just take immediate action?

Kyoto~~~ Just a question, but is the term "names day" from the books?

Molly~~~ Lemuel well My favorite holidays are Christmas & My birthday ~SS~

Sabre Wolf~~~ I would warn them first Mandi,,grins,,usually a 2 second growl,,,grin

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ Well, Christmas is definitely not Gorean. ~chuckles~ But there are other seasonal holidays on Gor.

Kayla~~~ And that is the point there was no Christmas or birthdays mentioned in the books that I recall ~looking to Lemuel~

tumit hunting is a season,,grins

Mandi~~~ There is the great Feast of Se Var, which roughly coincides with the winter solstice, Lemuel. I wonder if We should celebrate the feast days on the Gorean Calendar. It would not cost much other than the Captains might have to spring for a whole bosk now and then and the slaves would have to work a little harder. *g*

Mandi~~~ Damn, I wish Hallmark or Gorarii would publish a Gorean Holiday Calendar showing those special days.

Kayla~~~ Laughing at the seasons of a hunter and Warrior...LOL

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ I have a neat little program that shows a Gorean clock and calendar on the desktop Mandi.

Lemuel~~~ Not sure if it shows holidays, though...

Molly~~~ I wasnt asking for them to be recognized I was making conversation~ And you wonder why no one wishes to come to forum and say anything~

Lemuel~~~ I just did a quick search and couldn't find any reference to "names day", "name day" or "naming day"

shirin{SholGar}~~~ this show alil, Mistress Mandi....

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ No one is putting You down, Molly. We're just saying that those aren't "Gorean".

Kyoto~~~ I wasn't attacking your point, Molly, I was in fact curious about a nit picking point that I had not come across.

Sabre Wolf~~~ book 4,,the Wagon People don't name their kids till their sure their gonna live basicaslly,,laugh

galah{RA}~~~ did galah miss something, she don't understand what Mistress Molly is upset about?


Holidays in Port Kar
The Waiting Hand, the five-day period preceding the vernal equinox, the first day of spring, is a very solemn time for most Goreans. During this time few ventures are embarked upon, and little or no business is conducted. During this time most Goreans remain within their houses. It is in this time that the doors of many homes are sealed with pitch and have nailed to them branches of the brak bush, the leaves of which have a purgative effect. These precautions, and others like them, are intended to discourage the entry of ill luck into the houses.
In the houses there is little conversation and no song. It is a time, in general, of mourning, meditation and fasting. All this changes, of course, wit the arrival of the vernal equinox, which, in most Gorean cities, marks the New Year.
At dawn on the day of the vernal equinox a ceremonial greeting of the sun takes place, conducted usually by the Ubar or administrator of the city. This, in effect, welcomes the New Year to the city. In Port Kar this honor fell to Samos, first captain in the Council of Captains, and the councilís executive officers. The completion of this greeting is signified by, and celebrated by, a ringing of the great bars suspended about the city. The people then, rejoicing, issue forth from their houses. The brak bushes are burned on the threshold and the pitch is washed away. There are processions and various events, such as contests and games. It is a time of festival. The day is one of celebration.
These festivities, of course, are in marked contrast to the solemnities and abstinences of the Waiting Hand. The Waiting Hand is a time, in general, of misery, silence and fasting. It is also, for many Goreans, particularly those of the lower castes, a time of uneasiness, a time of trepidation and apprehension. Who knows what things, visible or invisible, might be abroad during that terrible time? In many Gorean cities, accordingly, the Twelfth Passage Hand, the five days preceding the Waiting Hand, that time to which few Goreans look forward with eagerness, is carnival. The fact that it was now only two days to the Twelfth Passage Hand, explained the presence of the unusual number of theatrical and carnival troupes now in the city.
Players of Gor, page 11
Outside I could hear the sounds of yet another troupe traversing the canal, with its raucous cries, its drums and trumpets. There had been several such troupes, theatrical troupes, carnival troupes, this evening. It was now only two days to carnival, to the Twelfth Passage Hand.
Players of Gor, page 30

Procession to the Sea
The next matter for consideration was the negotiation of a dispute between the sail-makers and the rope-makers in the arsenal with respect to priority in the annual Procession to the Sea, which takes place on the first of EníKara, the Gorean New Year.
Raiders of Gor, page 134

25th of SeKara
I did not know if the victory we had won, for victory it surely seemed to be, was decisive or not, but I well knew that the twenty-fifth of Se'Kara, for that was the day on which this battle had been fought, would not be soon forgotten in Port Kar, that city once called squalid and malignant, but which had now found a Home Stone, that city once called the scourge of gleaming Thassa, but which might now be better spoken of, as she had been by some of her citizens aforetimes, as her jewel, the jewel of gleaming Thassa. I wondered how many men would claim to have fought on the twenty-fifth of Se'Kara, abroad on Thassa. I smiled. This day would doubtless be made holiday in Port Kar
Raiders of Gor, pages 280-281

Kyoto~~~ I know that they discuss coming of age for various ones of the Gorean sub-cultures, like the Red Savages. But no where have I seen that the actual day was celebrated.

Kayla~~~ ~shaking My head again~

Lemuel~~~ ~smiles as My girl posts some holidays~
One small point, since Gorean Shores is set *before* the sea battle that takes place on the 25th of Se'Kara should we still celebrate it?

Mandi~~~ Not all Our Earthen experiences or even things We like will translate into Gorean life. We are certainly free to celebrate whatever We choose outside of Gor, but We do try to keep things reasonably Gorean in here.

Kayla~~~ Then at least the boards are book based on not allowing that... though I miss it as well for without some of the posts I would not know to say HB

Kyoto~~~ It would be like celebrating Christmas before Jesus was born... how can we celebrate what hasn't happened?

Mandi~~~ Lemuel, it is pretty moot this year. **chuckling**

Lemuel~~~ ~S~ There is always the auxilliary board Kayla.

Kyoto~~~ That just doubles back to the fact that we have two boards... one for "official" GS items and one for "unofficial" items.

Mandi~~~ Kayla, that could go on the auxiliary board, and that is sort of what the aux board was created for, non-Gorean and r/t matters, and things that don't quite fit on the main board.

Molly~~~ In My opinion it takes 2 to fight on the boards I've learned to ignore ~S~

galah{RA}~~~ there was "use names" that was names someone used instead of their true name which was kept secret for the uneducated was superstitious and feared using their real name
the name day thing came with that online gorean fringe that started all that weird language and claimed it to be gorean, like ja she and rask and fadu

Kyoto~~~ I wonder how Rask of Treve would react if he knew how his name was being used?

Kayla~~~ I agree but some of Us have enough to keep up with One board ~grin~

Mandi~~~ **chuckling** There may be three P/people on all of Gor who know My Gorean name, galah.

shirin{SholGar}~~~ yes Master Kyoto, this one was corrected on that point a long time ago and has changed her ways

galah{RA}~~~ well, galah was only adding her Masters two tarsk bits worth heheheheheheheee

Kyoto~~~ Makes sense, Mandi, as not one of high caste, you might tend to be a bit superstitious...

Lemuel~~~ ~chuckling~ Well, I think that should about do it for tonight's forum.

Kyoto~~~ So, what were tonight's topics, anyway?

Lemuel~~~ ~laughs~ Let's see...
How to get more people into the tavern.
How to keep the slaves happy.
Is conduct on the main board considered conduct in the Tavern.

jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~finishing the scribe work as Master calls forum to an end.. ~